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Postby Aedin » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:00 am

Syreth (post: 1428080) wrote:I did. Check out your prayer thread titled "Drugs."


Guess I was having too much anxiety, or was too close to a breakdown, when I read that thread.

I retract my statement then. One person did say that. But most of the people who said "I can't help you" didn't say anything about seeing professionals, they just said they can't help. It actually hurts more from one person specifically, than from anyone else. But either way, for reasons I believe I explained in my last post, it still hurts.
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Postby TGJesusfreak » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:05 pm

Aedin wrote:And not one person here has ever said "I can't help you, you need to see a professional" or anything like that.
I've said that too Aedin. The truth is I cannot help you. only God can, sorry to be a broken record on that. And I tried to see if I was the one to help you Aedin. I'm not the person God wants to speak through ok?

I'm sorry but I feel it pressed upon my heart to tell you that I cannot help you. God can help, he just has not chosen me as that one person to help you. I hope he has used me to plant a seed of hope in you... that's all that I've tried to do Aedin. I'm not the one to water that seed.... May God bless you on this path. I know that with (to paraphrase the declaration of independence) "firm reliance on deivine providence" that you will make it though.
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Postby Aedin » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:00 pm

I know you can't help me. I know only God can help me. ALl I ever watned from anyone on this site, was people to talk to me, and help support me as I try to make the changes I need to make. I can't really say anything else without sounding critical or accusatory.

And for waht it's worth, I realized tonight I'm not over my ex. I just talked to her and now I'm crying. Awesome.
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Postby Kunoichi » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:06 am

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Postby K. Ayato » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:49 am

"Getting over" your ex is not going to happen overnight, or as quickly as you'd hope it to be. It just doesn't work that way. It took me at least TWO YEARS after my first (and thank God, only) breakup before I regained the strength and determination to move on in life. Not trying to throw a wet blanket over your situation, Aedin. Just understand that you can't speed up a healing process to move faster than its appointed duration, whether the healing be physical, mental, emotional, or even spiritual.

I know it seems like it takes forever but stop and see how far you've come. You've taken some baby steps in the right direction :).
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Postby Aedin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:10 am

I'm just tired of being on the verge of tears all day every day. I don't really know what to say. I'm trying not to cry again. I just wish things would change, that I'd stop being so depressed, that I'd stop being so stupid and stop feeling so alone.

I have all these thoughts going through my head and they just won't stop. I can't stop crying. I hate this. I remember the old meds I used to be on, and how my only hope was finding a Christian community I belonged in. Now I'm on all these new meds, and everything feels hopeless. When people try to help me, I can't see it. I can't see the positive in anything. All I can think about is how everything's gonna get worse, everyone's gonna leave me or hate me. I hate how screwed up I am. I hate myself. I hope the psychiatrists can do something.

I'm really not doing well. I've tried so many meds, they don't help. It all feels so hopeless.
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Postby Kunoichi » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:02 pm

Aedin,

Got to stay out of your head hun. Show yourself some compassion. And since I'm not a doc, Inserts a Medical Disclaimer, SSRI's, SNRI's never worked for me. May be better to try a different class of med. In any case, continuing to pray.

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Postby Aedin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:15 pm

What do you use?

ANd I really hope people believe me on this, but I never meant to ignore the people trying to help me. I never meant to hurt anyone.
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Postby Yuki-Anne » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:40 pm

Aedin. I think what frustrates most of us is how unnecessarily hard you are on yourself. I know it's hard, but give yourself a break, and just know that you're not alone. *hugs*
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Postby Aedin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:24 pm

It's things like that, that make me feel the need to help people understand me.
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Postby Kunoichi » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:44 am

Aedin: i meant that SSRI (the class of drug that is a anti-dep and anti-anx) may need to be changed or adjusted to help you more. That class of med never helped me (and I tried them all) so I went on a mood stabilizer which helps me. You'd have to talk to your doc though
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Postby Aedin » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:58 pm

I hate myself so much. I can't even explain it. I think of all the ways things can go wrong, and I can barely think of any way things can go right. It's especially frustrating, because when I think of a way something can go right (me getting a job, for instance) somehow it goes wrong anyway. I feel like I'm always gonna be alone, like I'm never gonna find the church or community I need. LIke I'm never gonna find the friends I need and want. And I keep looking at like, local support groups, things like that, and all I can think of when I see them, is I'm gonna go through them, alone, I'm gonna deal with them, alone, and then when everything's "fixed" or the thing is "over" or whatever, I'm still gonna be too messed up to be able to make real friends. I hate myself and I'm so scared.
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Postby Aedin » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:34 am

I hope this psych evaluation thing helps me out and helps me find the right meds. If it's not too personal, Kuno, could you tell me a bit more about your experience?

Also, if anyone reads this, I'm dealing with a huge dilemma. It's very hard to figure out, and every aspect of it is incredibly vague, I feel no answers from God. It's making me cry.

Please pray. Everything I read or think of that should help me have hope, just makes me feel worse and more fearful and more hopeless. I want to cry but can't because I leave for work soon.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:38 am

Sorry if I'm bothering anyone.

I tried to kill myself again last night. I couldn't stop crying. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't stop the memories. It's so freakin hard. So many bad memories. I'm tired, and I've been crying all day, so I can't figure out the best way to phrase things. I'm so screwed up, and I keep praying, but no healing happens. I just don't know how to cope with any of the memories. I don't know why God won't let me die, I don't know why he keeps me alive. I'm not even Christian anymore. I can't do anything for him. Why am I still alive?

I just don't get anything anymore. I don't get why people dislike me so much.This has been my experience at this site, and it wouldn't be so bad, except for the fact that the way most people here have treated me, is exactly the same as the way most Christians I meet anywhere else treat me. That's why I'm not Christian anymore. People hurt me, insult me, act like everything I do is wrong, and when I got upset about it, and defended myself from baseless accusations and hurtful assumptions, most people eithert didn't listen to me, or they ignored me, and only cared what I did wrong, while ignoring what anyone else might have done wrong. Most people decide to give up on me before ever listening to me or understanding anything about me or truly trying to help me at all. People kept assuming untrue things about me and wouldn't listen or let me explain the truth about things.

I fell in love with someone. Then I found out they lied to me for months and used me. Then when I was upset about that, they insulted me, mocked me, and insulted me, especially for all the things they claimed to love about me, and they insulted me because the things I do to stay happy and not fall into a depression, didn't match what they thought I should do. And they made it really clear, constantly, that they thought I was pathetic for being hurt, and that they didn't really care at all. Noone here truly understands what I went through. So I came here for support, and most people mainly just cared what I did wrong, even though I barely did anything wrong, and most of the things I did wrong, the other person didn't tell me about it, so I was denied a chance to make anything wrong.. Most people here seemed to want me to be the badguy. I get lied to, used, never given a chance to make up for what I did wrong, heck, I was never even told what I did wrong, yet most people here automatically wanted me to be the bad guy. I was reading one of my old topics and people were saying they'd pray for her. I was the only one hurt. I don't get why it is that someone gets hurt, they come for support, and most people want them to be the badguy and only focus on what they do wrong. Some people from this site literally yelled at me because I wasn't the bad guy. I'm not trying to be insulting, or make anyone feel bad, I'm jsut crying and fighting the urge to try to kill myself again, and finally letting all my feelings out. I come here, or go to other Christians, and most of them want me to be the badguy when I get hurt, especially if I didn't do anything wrong. And then when there's a misunderstanding, or I trey to explain things and clear up their assumptions or defend myslf, they don't listen to me, they make up more things to make me look bad. They judge me for having a chemical imbalance, for having social anxiety, for having chronic problems that don't go away easily, for needing time and effor to heal, for needing people to listen and give me time and talk to me, the fact that I have a learning disorder, or for the fact that I get overwhelmed easily. And even worse, most of the people who hurt me, don't even care at all. Why am I so hated? Why am I so disliked? Why do people like judging me and then make everything I do or say to try to have an honest discussion or explanation or clear up misunderstandings and assumptions, try to make me look worse than I really am? Why do people assume so much about me and then refuse to listen when I try to clear things up? Why can't the people who hurt me care? Why am I given up on so often? I've been hurt so badly, so often, that it's gotten to the point where even the few people hwo seem to really want to help and listen and be my friend, well, I can't trust them, or make myself reach out to them, because I'm literally terrified they'll hurt me too and not listen or care. All I've wanted, for the longest time, is to just clear things up, clear up the misunderstandings, the assumptions. Just for people to understand me and listen to me. But now I'm too messed up for that to happen, and most of the people who helped make that happen don't care at all, they're **** at me when I barely did anything. I'm sorry I bothered everyone, I know it's gonna sound like self-pity or whatever, but I really didn't know I'd cause so many problems, I didn't know I'd be so unacceptable or that these things would happen when I came here. I never meant to make anything bad happen. I just wish I could talk to people and clear things up.

It's really hard for me to talk to people about stuff besides my problems, and it's hard to read other threads, because I get overwhelmed easily. It's hard for me to post about things besides my problems, because I get so overwhelmed with anxiety I literally break down crying, I have extreme panic attacks, and I just completely shut down. I just really don't know why having depression, social anxiety, emotional abuse, and getting overwhelmed easily, or the fact that I have to focus on myself a lot, to help myself not break down crying and trying to kill myself again (about twenty five times and counting as of last night), I don't get why that makes it ok for so many people to make assumptions about me, act like I'm a bad person, act like everything's my fault or I have to be the bad guy, and then ignore me, or twist what I say or not listen, when I try to explain and clear things up. I don't get why it's so easy for so many people (in general) to judge me and condemn me, or at least make me feel judged and condemned, and then most of them don't even care they hurt me so bad. I don't get why I'm so easily hateable, ya know? I don't know anymore. I've always tried so hard to fix my depression and everything, to make it so I can talk about things besides my problems, but my social anxiey makes me freak out and shut down and then I can't talk, and my experience has been, when I don't talk, people don't talk to me. I feel like everything I do is gonna make something worse happen. I want to die so much. There's no hope for me. I can't be Christian, and people have hurt me, and damaged me and my ability to have faith so much, that I struggle every day with believing God and Jesus love me at all. If I can't believe them, or love others (I'm too screwed up to love) I';m going to hell. I'm completely screwed. I hate this. I really just want to die. Christians can't stand me, can't stick with me. God
's people can't love me, most of them can't care in the least about me, what hope does someone like me have?
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Postby Yuki-Anne » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:13 am

Aedin... look around. Where are your accusers? It's been months, nobody's been getting on your case. I'm sorry that happened to you, but you're holding on to this hurt and making this generalization that because a few people hurt you, everybody feels the same way. You can't keep letting yourself do that. It's not true, and you're making things worse for yourself in your own head. Some of us have been nothing but supportive, and that's not changing any time soon. I'm praying for you, Aedin. Right now.
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Postby Kunoichi » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:43 am

I have many thoughts on your last post Aedin but I'll leave it be.

If you are already having suicide attempts, you need to go to the hospital and get admitted. If its a "crisis" moment then there isn't much talking can do right now. I'm sincerely worried about you with this. You know I've been there. And a suicide attempt is only an attempt when you are alive through it. That doesn't happen often. My last 2 were only survived because 2 people happened to either tackle me or found me and rushed me to the ER. It was at a point where I couldn't here anyone and especially couldn't hear God.

I'm praying for you as always. I don't post much lately but have always been praying. You may not be able to hear this but you are loved. I sincerely hope you get into a hospital though so YOU can keep safe.

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Postby Okami » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:55 am

They judge me for having a chemical imbalance, for having social anxiety, for having chronic problems that don't go away easily, for needing time and effor to heal, for needing people to listen and give me time and talk to me, the fact that I have a learning disorder, or for the fact that I get overwhelmed easily.


If it's any consolation, I have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, and it flares up really bad the first ten days of December. This year it consisted of reliving my memories of those days while I would have been sleeping. Every night I went to bed anxious, even in trying to prepare myself for what I was going to be experiencing that night. So while I was asleep, I wasn't actually sleeping, I was living seeming nightmares over again. All the while I had friends telling me to "Just snap out of it" and if I "really hadn't slept in over a week, I would be hospitalized." People, even strong Christ-followers, can become afraid of the psyche when things become difficult to handle. It's almost like a natural response to want to back down because the situation is so difficult; they become overwhelmed by the nature of overwhelming anxiety felt by the other person, if that makes sense.

As far as your still being alive, well, God's not finished with you yet. I know that's the most annoying response in the world, but I learned this one the hard way, too. :) It is difficult to see why He might still want you here right now, and it may be for a while, but He'll reveal it all in His own perfect timing.

As far as what Yuki and Kuno have said, I must agree with them. We want to see you safe, healing. It takes time for the wounds of the past to heal. I love you, Aedin. I wouldn't be trying to help you if that weren't true. Please get yourself some professional care, soon. We want the best for you!

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Postby goldenspines » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:29 am

Aedin, if you are being mistreated on the CAA forums or over PM, please report it (with posts or forwarded PMs) to the CAA staff and we will handle it. I personally don't want any CAA member to be mistreated or feel unwelcome on the site if I can help it.

Otherwise, I have not seen any evidence of people being mean to you here or accusing you. But rather, all I've seen is people loving and trying to encourage you with their posts.

At any rate, Aedin, we have not given up on you. Still keeping you in my prayers.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:01 pm

Aedin wrote:I don't know why God won't let me die, I don't know why he keeps me alive.

Because you clearly haven't given it a single serious effort, which must mean that you don't really want to die. Which is probably a good thing. If you don't (want to) hold onto anything else, hold onto that.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:33 pm

I haven't slept for two days. I've spent two days crying. I ODed on ills earlier, took four times the amount I'm supposed to, and in a few minutes, I'm gonna do it again. Long story short, this is probably the only time I'm going to be able to speak clearly, explain everything, without completely breaking down emotionally. I'm gonna finally be able to say almost everything I've wanted to say. And then chances are I'll ask Mithrandir to ban me, so I can't come back. This might be my last post. Well, not really my last post, since there's some people I have to respond to, and I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one message, so I have to reply to a coule people, but basically, these are most likely my last few posts here.

I'm not good at organizing, but I"ll try to make it all clear and have it all make sense.

I've been emotionally abused for as long as I can remember, by many different people. Most of the people who were supposed to love me, spent my life making me believe I Don't matter. What I want didn't matter. They spent a long time (almost twenty years) making me feel worthless, nothing about me mattered, I was meaningless, everything I did was wrong, and everything I actually did right, they'd ignore, or barely acknowledge it then go on and on and on about what I did wrong. If I did something right, they'd spend their time focusing on the small part I did wrong, or they'd twist things to make me wrong anyway. I grew up always tense, because my family fought constantly. Yelling at the to of their lungs. only stopped when I was around thirteen, when my suicidal depression began, and hasn't stopped. I've been obsessed with killing myself, for the better part of ten years now. I grew up without a father, my family always fighting, abuse more often than it should ever happen, then it segued into my parent's divorce, and my suicidal depression, and almost thirty suicide attempts. The only reason I'm not dead yet, is I"m scared of pain, and I'm scared of what will happen if I Try to kill myself and fail. To answer Htom's post, first off, you don't know if I've made a single serious attempt or not. I'd say stabbing myself in the chest and being hospitalized because I drank a lot of poison, counts as serious attempts. I want to die. I'm just too much of a coward to pull it off, and I haven't yet found any simple, mostly painless ways to pull it off.

So much to say, not sure how to get it all out.Some of it is just background information to help eople understand, but I Don't know how big a deal that is, so maybe I"ll come back and fill it in later. Basically, most of my life has been emotional abuse. What I listed before, my mom getting **** at me constantly simply because I was depressed and upset, and so many family issues I can't begin to explain, that I almost became bipolar. Social anxiety, so I couldn't talk to anyone or make any real friends. Physically, financially, I've had a good life. Emotionally, mentally, I wouldn't wish those aspects of my life on anyone. I won't even go into what my dad and my non-immediate family have done. Basically, as I said before, most of my life has been people skimming over the good things I Do, and then focusing on how much I mess up and do wrong, even if I hadn't actually messed anything up, and then shutting me down as soon as I speak up. Spent most of my life feeling worthless, meaningless, convinced on a level I can't explain, that noone loves me, noone will ever love me, that God hates me and my salvation from Jesus's death was just a "fringe benefit". And then there's my learning disorder. It's hard ro explain, but basically my disorder means I don't always understand stuff well, I need indepth explanation, and lots of patience and understanding. People don't like that, people can't stand that, so they shun me and abandon me for it.

Other examples. I met someone in driver's ed, about four years ago or so. We got along great, she seemed to really care, we talked about common interests, she worried more than I did, and I barely talked about my problems (she had the same ones I did, so I was a support for her). She wAS my best friend. Then one day, I texted her, or called her, got no response. I figured it was no big deal. Coule days later, I texted her again. No response. I stopped trying to contact her for two weeks. Then after two weeks passed, I sent her a text asking how she'd been. *bad language alert* Almost immediately I get a text from her phone, from someone claiming to be her friend (I don't know if it was her, or really was her friend) telling me to "leave her the **** alone" and "stop ****ing stalking her". Hard to stalk someone when I willingly didn't talk to her for two weeks, and hadn't seen her for longer.

Something similar happened in college. I randomly met someone, they started talking to me. We kept running into each other at school, she seemed more into the friendship than I was. I didn't talk about my problems with her, she literally made me talk about them. I'd make one little comment about something that was going on with me, and she'd run with it, she'd kee asking question, giving me advice, trying to help me. She was the reason we talked about my problems at all. Then over spring break, I send her a text asking how she's been. I get a call back from her did, saying she didn't want to know me anymore, and that was the reason I hadn't seen her at school lately (when the real reason I hadn't seen her at school lately, is it had been spring break, so neither of us even went to the school for two weeks.)

Now the long part of this post, me and my experiences with Christians, and what Christians have taught me (not just people from thsi site, and not all Christians, just 99% of the Christians I've met, no joke).

My drugs are wearing off, so this may not make as much sense or be as organized as I'd like. This is all gonna sound like generalizations, but they sound that way because this is how most Christians have treated me. One erson I knew (not from this site) one day, for no reason, maniulated me (and admitted to it) to show me people can have misunderstandings (as if I didn't know that already) and then a few days later, she and I had an honest misunderstanding. What did she do? Acted like everything was my fault, that I was manipulating her, acting like I"m terrible. All that happened was a misunderstanding, along with the fact that she had built such a fear into me of being honest with her, that once I finally started being honest, she said I was manipulating her, and left. She hasn't responded to any of my emails, and the fact tha tshe tried so hard to make it all sound like my fault and like I"m horrible. So she can manipulate me, and it's ok. We can't have misunderstandings without me being a horrible person though. Let alone the fact that I was scared of talking to her, is partly because she literally got mad at me because I missed her, and came pretty close to implying that I was pathetic for missing my online friends. Also, she said she had bad memory, so whenever she forgot something, it was ok, but as soon as I forgot one thing about her, she got **** at me, and left.

I was on another Christian site a while, I don't think peole here know of it. They had a chat room. If you weren't popular, people in chat would ignore you, insult you, mock you. If you had a problem with anything (which a few people had problems with them being incredibly cliqueish and actively shutting out and ignoring anyone who didn't "fit in". One day, in chat, there waS this girl. She had never done anything to anyone. She said she was depressed and suicidal. As expected from this site (not CAA) people started insulting her and mocking her. A staff member told her to kill herself. Literally. He told her to go to kill herself because he was tired of "pseudo-Christians" as if telling a suicidal person to go kill themselves makes him a better Christian. I got really, really, really angry. *bad language alert* I said "**** you" to him. You know what everyone talked about, what everyone had a problem with? That I said "**** you" to a guy telling a poor, depressed, suicidal, sixteen year old girl to kill herself. Absolutely none of them cared about what he did, that he told her to kill herself. They all only cared that I said what I said. What kind of site is that where if you're deressed and suicidal, everyone will either ignore you or insult you, and if someone stands u for you, they'll all get **** and angry at the person who stood up for you. That website, if you weren't annoying and loud and hyperactive and mean, judgmental, and hateful (some of them were literally hateful) and full of yourself, you'd be ignored or mocked.

I've tried to meet Christians in person. They were all either liars, or bad friends (as in you'd call them, asking how they've been, asking if they wanted to do something) and keep in mind I didn't go on and on about my problems with them, and then they wouldn't call you back for two weeks at the soonest, if they ever called you back. Then there were the others who abandoned me as soon as it turned out I wasn't perfect, or because I didn't like parties and getting drunk and sleeping around. Yeah, I met those people at church. Let alone all the other people who ignore you because they don't know you.

How to segue it. Suicidal depression for ten years. Almost thirty suicide attempts. Social anxiety so bad that if I look at more than two topics on this site, or most sites for that matter, my body starts shaking, I break down into tears, my body shakes, I get extreme panic attacks where my body freaks out, my whole body feels numb (literally) and you really just don't want to see me when like that. I freak out, can't stop crying, I lose control of myself. That happens every single time I try to read more than two threads, or try to make a post about something besides my problems.
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Postby Cloud500 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:07 pm

I really, really want you to please hear us out. Killing yourself won't solve anything. You keep posting in these threads and people keep responding. People do care. People want to help.

I know I've already said this before (and probably in this thread), but I have(and am having) trouble finding friends too. I've had problems for as long as I can remember. I'm quiet. I have difficulty finding the right words when I'm talking with people and this makes me seem really awkward. I come home from class everyday and have no one to talk to. I don't have people to hang out with on the weekends.

But the thing is, I'm not giving up. I may not be exactly where I want to be in life, but I keep trying. I know I can get through this and I know you can too.

I wouldn't be posting here if I didn't care about what was happening with you. I don't want you to harm yourself and I'm sure no one else wants that either.

We're all trying to help. We may not be able to fix your problem, but we're trying to support you as much as we can.
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Postby Furen » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:28 pm

Cloud500 (post: 1443871) wrote:We're all trying to help. We may not be able to fix your problem, but we're trying to support you as much as we can.


Man, the amount of times I have heard this said, but also note the fact that everyone here speaks it truly. We love you Aedin ([color="Red"]♥]) so let us know you know we care.
And this I pray, that your love would abound still, more and more with real knowledge and all discernment. Be prepared to preach the gospel at a moment's notice. Do you know the gospel well enough to do so yourself? Be ready.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:37 pm

Which brings us to the end of this post, me, my experiences with this site, and why I've grown to distrust 99% of Christians, why I'm literally terrified to open up to anyone, and why I"m actively not a Christian anymore.

Most Christians I meet act nice, they seem nice. Then they usually abandon me, or insult me and try t omake me feel worse about myself.

Another example (not of people on this site, but of the kinds of Christians I usually meet). About two years ago or so, I fell in love with a girl, things generally went pretty well. I wanted to marry her. I wanted to always be with her, to help her through everything. She did everything she could to sabotage the relationship, then a year later I found out we had a bunch of common interests, she just never felt talking about them. It was long-distance. She said she couldn't come here to be with me, cause she couldn't leave her family. She'd always tell me she loved me and all. She said she could never date a non-Christian or someone who drank alcohol. She ended u leaving me for an alcoholic non-Christian, who cheated on her at least once. She was gonna marry him, leave her family. To make a really long story short, she gave him everything I wanted, and he treated her really badly, and I tried to treat her as best as I possibly could. When she dumped me for him, every single conversation became her yelling at me because I was upset, and demeaning everything I thought we had. Obviously I was really upset. I talked to one of my friends about it (Christian, not from this site) and she called me a ****. I loved her more than anything at the time, she makes promises, breaks them without a second thought, yells at me and insults me when I'm upset, because I would've done anything to fix things, I just wasn't given the chance because she was so sure this new guy was so great. And my friend called me a **** for it all.

I've been on this site off and on for I believe at least two years. During that time, I've seen a history of eople not wanting to understand or listen. Other eole I've talked to (people most of you know and are friends with) have confirmed what I've seen. There's been a couple times (I'm sure the posts are still up there, and goldenspines, if it matters to you, I can actually find some examples and show you) where I reached out, and all that happened was most people who responded just tried to make me feel even worse, and not care or take responsibility for what they did, all the while going on about how I Should take responsibility. There's even been times where I didn't reach out or mention my problems, yet still peole twisted things, made assumptions, ignored what I had to say or wouldn't listen to me, and then twisted things to make me feel and sound worse than I am. I made a thread once, saying I might be gone for a bit because of personal stuff. It ended up being one of the first toics where people made lots of false assumptions and accusatiions about me, and where they started focusing on all the things I do wrong. I was stupid enough to make a toic saying I"d be gone for a while, because I didn't want people to worry, and all that really happened was I got tons of assumptions thrown at me, everything I said to clear things up was twisted, and overall quite a few people just made me feel like a horrible person. And then a mod said they didn't understand why I'd ask for the topic to be closed when I asked for help and people were helping me. I never asked for help in that topic, I didn't make the topic to get help, and all most of the people in the topic were doing were trying to make me sound and feel like a horrible person, shooting down or twisting all my responses, never bothering to listen or understand. That answers one of your questions goldenspines. I don't talk to mods, because in my two year experience, mods either don't listen, or don't care, and then I've talked to a mod sometimes, and the conversations seems to always flip between trying to hel me, and trying to make sure I know that everything that goes wrong is all my fault and noone elses and I"m the only one who needs to change or do things differently, to make sure I Know that people insulting me and making me feel horrible, making things up about me and not letting me explain or defend myself, is ok, but I'm not truly allowed to have any problems with anyone else. Also I've talked to mods about like, talking to the eople who hurt me, clearing things up, all that stuff. It was made pretty clear that's never gonna happen.

Almost every time I reach out here, or even come to this site, one of two things happens. I feel judged and condemned for having a learning disorder, chemical imbalance, severe social anxiety, the fact that I get overwhelmed easily, and the fact that I need people to listen and care and have patience with me, or the fact that I don't easily understand some things so I need them spelled out, or the fact that it's hard for me to forgive and get over and let go, so I need to talk things out sometimes. Either that happens, or I"m flooded by memories of times, and people, who made me feel judged and condemned, or twisted everything I said or did to make me look and sound worse, and wouldn't let me explain the misunderstandings, or defend myself against the false assumptions they made. Or the people who gave up on me without ever bothering to try to really help me or understanbd me. They'd do or say one thing, it wouldn't work, so instead of trying something else, or asking what I need, or asking how I could be helped, they'd blame it all on me, say it was all because "I didn't want to be helped" when really, the problem was they didn't take time to get to know me, and figure out how to hel me, and when I"d try to explain how to help me, they'd ignore me, say I was making excuses or whatever. Those people are still on this site, and they've never once acknowledged they did that, or they had any blame, they've never apologized about it, yet so many peole on this site care so much about the things I should apologize for, when most of the things they think I Should apologize for, I didn't even do, they just made it up.

That's a good segue to the last part of my post. What happened here last time when I got dumped. When I got dumped, and came here for support, I mainly found two kinds of people. The people who wanted me to be the badguy, when I did nothing truly wrong, and the people who seemed really nice and supportive, so I trusted them (stupid mistake) and then they started yelling at me. I talked to one of them today. I wanted to make amends for bothering her, so I apologized. What was their response? They told me to shut up, and then signed off. So here's the full story. I thought we were in love, that we wanted to get married. I loved her more than anything. She made me really happy. She made all these promises. Then one day she dumps me because she likes another guy. I don't know if she left me for him or not. I have my reasons to believe it though. Anyway, I asked her about the promises and all (not in an accusatory way, just a "what about these? I'm confused" kind of way) and for some reason she was irritated at me. I still don't know why she was irritated, or why she mistreated me so badly after she dumped me. I Did find out later though (she admitted all of it) that throughout the whole relationship, she hadn't been acting how she really was. I was lied to for six months, lead to believe she was the exact opposite of who she was. And for some reason, people on CAA wanted it to be my fault, they wanted me to be the bad guy. They even talked about praying for her because she must be hurting, and she might not wwant her friends to know this stuff. She told me multiple times she has no friends on here, she barely goes on here at all. And why would she be hurting, when I was the one dumped for someone else, and she haS no friends on here who would be able to tell who she was, so she has noone on here she'd want to talk to. Some peole said she might wANt to tell her side of the story, and now she can't because of what I did? What side of the story? She's admitted everything I've said about her, and she's admitted to intentionally not telling me the things I did wrong, so she's admitted to intentionally giving me no chance to apologize or make things right an dmake things up to her and fix things, so thats not my fault, yet so many people who responded to my topics wanted it to be my fault, and some people get mad because it wasn't my fault. So many people seemed so concerned on how she was doing, when she'd constantly admit, to everyone, most of the problems in our relationshi were her fault, that most of the things that went wrong were her fault and she wouldn't give me a chance to fix it. Then almost every time we talked after she dumped me, she'd get mad at me because I wasn't over it yet and she was. I wasn't over it because I wanted to marry her. I loved her. She got over it so fast because she didn't care at all. She said it's really easy to forgive, but said she didn't want to stay with me because she didn't want to forgive me over and over. Nor would she even let me know what I did, so I could change things so she wouldn't have to forgive me over and over. She admitted to lieing, to intentionally making it so I couldn't make things right, admitted that most of it was her fault, and while we were together, she kept saying she wanted me to be hapy and hoped my depression healed. Then after she dumped me, she insulted me for every single thing I do to fight my depression and to be happy. She made me sound like I"m a horrible person for it. She admitted all this stuff, yet when I needed comfort, most of you only truly cared how she was doing, and wanted me to be the bad guy and focused on all the things I did wrong, even though in this case I didn't do anything wrong.
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Postby Cloud500 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:49 pm

I'm not saying that you haven't been hurt by people here, but at least acknowledge the people who responded to you today.

None of the people who replied today said anything hurtful to you. They offered their support and prayers to you. I don't think it's fair to say everyone on this site is mean or that they seem nice but are truly mean.

I'm sorry for the way people in your life have treated you, but give us a chance at least.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:03 pm

And then on top of that, a few of you, for a really long time now, would either twist almost everything I did or say, or act like they knew everything about me, knew all the answers, without talking to me once or understanding anything abOut me, or they'd make u baseless assumptions about me, and shut me down every time I tried to explain or clear things up. And what's worse, most of the people who hurt me, won't acknowledge the possibility they could've done anything wrong, they just try to make everything my fault. They actively don't care at all, and if I'm upset, and stupid enough to try to talk to them and clear things up, they insult me. Or just straight out ignore me. And if I'm upset about that, they insult me, but when they do the exact same things they get mad at me and insult me for, it's supposedly to be perfectly ok and noone's allowed to have a problem with any of it.

I'm not Christian anymore for a few reasons. One, I believe God exists, but I've been so damaged, in so many ways, that I Literally can't believe he really loves me or cares that much about me. I've been so damaged, that I can't love anyone anymore, and the BIble says if you can't love others, you can't love God. Don't love God, you don't go to Heaven. So basically, I get irreparably damaged, by so many people, mainly Christians, and all my prayers for healing do nothing, so basically, I get irreparably damaged by other people, and I'm going to hell for it. Sometimes I wonder if this is what Jesus felt like. I'm going to Hell for things other people did.

Two, most Christians I meet ignore you, or insult you, or have no interest in talking to you or getting to know you or understand you before judging you, condemning you, and thinking you're worthless. I'm so tired of that, I can't take it anymore, that it's been the main reason I've been extra suicidal the past couple months. Christians hate me, I Don't know, but I Got sick a long time ago fo trying to figure out. And I've been so hurt, by so many eople, that even the ones who seem nice and friendly, who seem to care and want to help, well, I can't trust them. I've met too many people who seem to care, and then immediately judge me and act like I"m a horrible erson eve nwhen I haven't done anything. All I ever wanted was to talk things through, and clear things u, all the people who have hurt me or who I have had misunderstandings with, but they all made it clear they had no interest in talking or clearing things up or listening or understanding. And why should I Give them that courtesy, when I did nothing wrong, and they're still not willing to give me the same courtesy?

Third and fourth reasons I'm not Christian anymore. I've been trying to meet Christians, and Christians alone, for many years now. All I've found is 99% of them are evil, hateful people, who just want to judge, condemn, ignore, people with problems, and make them feel like they're horrible worthless people, and that the "Christians" are better than everyone else. Fourth reason, is once again, most Christians I meet, they try so hard to make peole like me (and not just me) feel like worthless, horrible, meaningless people, that we're pathetic and everything we do is wrong, and they don't even acknowledge or care about what they've done or how they've hurt other people. There's a couple people on this site specifically, who I have never once wronged, never done anything against them, yet for some reason they hate me, and don't care that they hurt me first when I did nothing to them. I still remember this one girl, when I was having some self esteem problems, she told me to be proud I"m a child of God, at the same time she kept calling me an idiot and saying things like "God, please help this idiot realize he's an idiot". Why do I bring that up? Why do I mention that? Because Christianity is a religion full of the most heartless, selfish, self-centered, evil, uncaring people in the world, annd I can't associate myself with it anymore. I don't know what people's response will be, but so many people on this site have already tried so hard to push me to depression and suicide andd push me away from God and Jesus and my salvation, that I actually ended up losing my salvation, that if anyone's made or irritated or annoyed by these posts, I honestly don't care anymore, because if someone gets mad or irritated by these posts, chances are they're one of the people who helped push me into this situation when the only reason I came to this site wAs for love and support. And just to get a few last thoughts out so I don't have to make another post. There's still the girl who said I'm not Christian because I deal with depression and loneliness. SHe also doesn't care that she said that or how deeply it's hurt me. Then there's the people who insult me, or try to make me feel and sound like a bad person, because I have faith issues, rather than discussing them with me and trying to help me find answers and lift me up, they needlessly cut me down, then act like they're a better erson and a great Christian for it. Or the people who abandon me and give up on me before trying to really make a true effort to help me r listen to me or get to know me or understand me or my problems and my situation. I can think of three or four right now. And the worst part is, when I try to tell them how to help me, they ignore it, they just say I don't want to be helped, or they say they tried to hel me (when they never did) and say I ignored it, basically so that it becomes my fault they can't help me. I just can't associate myself anymore with a religion full of evil hypocritical uncaring people who kee acting like they're better than everyone else. I'm not saying people on this site are like that, but I've met a lot of Christians both on this site and off this site, and in person, and the vast majority of them have been exactly as I described. I just can't do it anymore.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:05 pm

Furen (post: 1443877) wrote:Man, the amount of times I have heard this said, but also note the fact that everyone here speaks it truly. We love you Aedin ([color="Red"]♥]) so let us know you know we care.


You don't know how much I want to believe this. But you have to understand my years of experience of trusting people who seem to care (Even people from this site) who it turns out later never cared at all. Believing what you and Cloud say, it's not something I can just flip on, especially not after twenty years of abuse from a Christian family and from a lot of Christians I've met.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:07 pm

Cloud500 (post: 1443886) wrote:I'm not saying that you haven't been hurt by people here, but at least acknowledge the people who responded to you today.

None of the people who replied today said anything hurtful to you. They offered their support and prayers to you. I don't think it's fair to say everyone on this site is mean or that they seem nice but are truly mean.

I'm sorry for the way people in your life have treated you, but give us a chance at least.


I've never said everyone is mean. I've said most people on this site who I've tried talking to have ended u being mean, which is true. I do acknowledge the people who have replied and seemed nice. That's why I"m so ****. BEcause the bad people have messed me up so much, or I've had so many people abandon me, that I can't trust the people who respond and seem nice.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:09 pm

goldenspines (post: 1443693) wrote:Aedin, if you are being mistreated on the CAA forums or over PM, please report it (with posts or forwarded PMs) to the CAA staff and we will handle it. I personally don't want any CAA member to be mistreated or feel unwelcome on the site if I can help it.

Otherwise, I have not seen any evidence of people being mean to you here or accusing you. But rather, all I've seen is people loving and trying to encourage you with their posts.

At any rate, Aedin, we have not given up on you. Still keeping you in my prayers.


I appreciate what you're trying to say, but you haven't seen all the PMs where people have said they've given up on me. If you really want, and if you promise to listen to me and let me explain and acknowledge I may be right (too used to so many people on this site basically saying I'm wrong abut everything, and then insulting me for it) I can give you some examles of what I mean.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:17 pm

Cloud500 (post: 1443871) wrote:I really, really want you to please hear us out. Killing yourself won't solve anything. You keep posting in these threads and people keep responding. People do care. People want to help.

I know I've already said this before (and probably in this thread), but I have(and am having) trouble finding friends too. I've had problems for as long as I can remember. I'm quiet. I have difficulty finding the right words when I'm talking with people and this makes me seem really awkward. I come home from class everyday and have no one to talk to. I don't have people to hang out with on the weekends.

But the thing is, I'm not giving up. I may not be exactly where I want to be in life, but I keep trying. I know I can get through this and I know you can too.

I wouldn't be posting here if I didn't care about what was happening with you. I don't want you to harm yourself and I'm sure no one else wants that either.

We're all trying to help. We may not be able to fix your problem, but we're trying to support you as much as we can.


You might want to see a doctor. I take anti-anxiety meds, they help me a lot. Emotional abuse kinda tempers it out, bu still, he pills help. You should talk to a doctor about it. There's also natural supplements you can take that are supposed to hel, I can give you info about those.

I can't promise I'll be Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky, but we can talk sometimes if you want.

What you say about not being able to fix my problem. That's part of my problem with most people on this site. I've never once asked anyone here to fix my problem. I've never expected anyone person to be able to fix my problem. And I know you're not saying I have. But some of these other people. They pulled out of nowhere that I came here to throw pity parties and I waNted everyone else to do all the work for me and that I do nothing to help myself. None of them had a single reason to think, say, or make any of that u, and that hurts. And none of them have ever apologized or cared, they just went on assuming they knew everything when they didn't know a single thing about me. That's part of why I've been gone so long, part of why I can't stand this place anymore. I'm so sick of people who make baseless assumptions, act like they're totally right and know everything, hurt you in the process and don't care, and when you try to explain things and clear things up or defend yourself, they say you're making excuses, or that you're wrong, when really, they're wrong, they just don't care enough to listen or really want to help. And what bothers me most, is most of the peole who have hurt me so bad that I've been suicidal, left the faith, and made all these long posts, they're popular people on this forum. Everyone loves them. And if I actually said who any of them were, everyone would either ignore me or say I"m wrong, or start treating me like the others have treated me. I'm so tired of needless insults, eople trying to make me feel horrible, peole yelling at me for no reason, baseless assumtions that are constantly defended for no good reason without giving the other person the chance to defend themself.
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Postby Aedin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:20 pm

Kunoichi (post: 1443685) wrote:I have many thoughts on your last post Aedin but I'll leave it be.

If you are already having suicide attempts, you need to go to the hospital and get admitted. If its a "crisis" moment then there isn't much talking can do right now. I'm sincerely worried about you with this. You know I've been there. And a suicide attempt is only an attempt when you are alive through it. That doesn't happen often. My last 2 were only survived because 2 people happened to either tackle me or found me and rushed me to the ER. It was at a point where I couldn't here anyone and especially couldn't hear God.

I'm praying for you as always. I don't post much lately but have always been praying. You may not be able to hear this but you are loved. I sincerely hope you get into a hospital though so YOU can keep safe.

Love

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I'm never going to a hospital. There's enough people in the world who think people like me are worthless freaks to be shunned and avoided, if I went to a mental hospital, that would only get worse. And you're right, I'm too damaged to hear that I"m loved. I'm too damaged to hear God. I'mm too screwed u to serve God or hel his plan, to bring others to Christ. I never wanted to be this screwed up, but I can't help but feel God's massively disappointed in me anyway. I"m doing my best, but my best has never been good enough for anyone.

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