Ha, ha! The Da Vinci Code is getting bad reviews

[Shao Feng-Li]

To think Creation is a theory is simply silly... Theories can be disproven.

I'm glad the movie is bombing right now. (Though the trailers looked really cool.)

[Tenshi no Ai]

Hmmm now that I look at what actually made the top 10 at the box office for the weekend, it's true despite the fact that the hype has created a ton of stuff to promote the show, and that it came out last night you'd think... anyhow box office this weekend is thus far:

1. Mission Impossible III
2. Poseidon
3. RV
4. Just My Luck
5. An American Haunting
6. United 93
7. Stick It
8. Ice Age: The Meltdown
9. Silent Hill
10. Hoot
11. Scary Movie 4


I'll keep checking to see if it even makes this list in the next couple of days (because if it was THAT big of a blockbuster it would be on already, right?)

[Tommy]

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[Arnobius]

The most recent I can find are for last week. You may not be able to get info until Monday.

According to the reports I can find, it made $29m the first day

[Linksquest]

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[Arnobius]

With that said, let's not let this turn into a debate about evolution (in other words, let's drop this, okay). Remember, guys, one thread on this subject has already been closed. Let's not do that to this one, okay?

Just a reminder of what the mods have said already

[Phantom_Sorano]

I don't know about the DaVinci code...it is getting so much controversy....but even on these specials about it on the History channel says that the plot of the book in inconclusive....so if the History channel disagrees with it, you know it is wrong....

[FadedOne]

I don't know about the DaVinci code...it is getting so much controversy....but even on these specials about it on the History channel says that the plot of the book in inconclusive....so if the History channel disagrees with it, you know it is wrong....

Yeah, my Mom was watching history channel & they came across exceptionally skeptical about the book's claims. I consider HC to be rather liberal when it comes to religion related stuffs, so I was surprised.

[Mangafanatic]

I think I must have been too vague with my warning. I apologize. At this point, I need all discussion of evolution be dropped. I fail to see how it has any bearing on this topic, and, even if someone believed it was somehow related, I still need it to stop. Thank you so much.

Note: I've gone ahead and snipped comments accordingly.

[Maledicte]

Haha, rottentomatoes.com gives the verdict: 18% out of 100% http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/da_vinci_code/

However, the same can't be said from the general public: 76%, constituting a "fresh" movie. I suppose it goes to show how good people think movies have to be.

[Linksquest]

Haha, rottentomatoes.com gives the verdict: 18% out of 100% http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/da_vinci_code/

However, the same can't be said from the general public: 76%, constituting a "fresh" movie. I suppose it goes to show how good people think movies have to be.

WOW... that is actually pretty surprising.

[Bobtheduck]

The current rotten tomato rating is 22% critic, 48% user...

Silent Hill is 27% critic, 45% user... Not that the two are connected, but I think it's funny... Even with it's low rating, it still had a 77 million dollar opening weekend (SH had 25 mil, I believe)

Both of those movies earned half their budgets back in the opening weekend... By the end, SH earned back barely over budget (54 million, but has DVD sales to bring it back) and it's likely Da Vinci will do the same.

[quote="Roger Ebert"]They say The Da Vinci Code has sold more copies than any book since the Bible. Good thing it has a different ending. Dan Brown's novel is utterly preposterous]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[creed4]

Very true... so long as they ask instead of assume. It is nice to know that all the apologetics that have been done since the book came out seem to be paying dividends now if the cast and director and author are changing their tones from "The facts are true" to "Hey, don't take it so seriously, it's fiction..."

Maybe thats the good thing, its making us get back to apologetics. I've never like how we seem to abandon it

[Arnobius]

It's a pity that it did well enough to make a profit already with the rest of the world included, as http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=davincicode.htm indicates it made over $229m. On the plus side the daily numbers show a decline from day to day after Friday, falling 4.6% on the second day and 22.7% on Sunday. We can always hope for things to get worse for future weekends.

[creed4]

Yes that is a pity

[Bobtheduck]

It's a pity that it did well enough to make a profit already with the rest of the world included, as http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=davincicode.htm indicates it made over $229m. On the plus side the daily numbers show a decline from day to day after Friday, falling 4.6% on the second day and 22.7% on Sunday. We can always hope for things to get worse for future weekends.

I've never heard of a movie making more internationally than it does locally... That's... That is unbelieveable... (except maybe something like LotR or Narnia doing well in the US)

I can't believe it did so well in Japan, too... Guess I'll have to know my arguments... I'll have to deal with stuff from this in Japan, too...

[Orange Kitten]

I've never heard of a movie making more internationally than it does locally...

That happens quite often.

[Steeltemplar]

Apparently, the movie has now been banned in Belarus:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/23/vincicode.belarus.reut/index.html

[beau99]

This is just proof that controversy sells.

[Arnobius]

This is just proof that controversy sells.

Yes it does sell. I recall when The Last Temptation of Christ came out, the critics generally agreed that were it not for the controversy, it would have been considered simply a bad movie and quickly forgotten.

It will be interesting to see how well the film does next weekend. Monday ticket sales fell off by 58.3% but admittedly it is a weekday and sales would be lower. As far as I can tell, the numbers seem to be worse than Revenge of the Sith did last year, but this is pretty new to me tracking this stuff so I can't tell whether this is typical or not.

[ShiroiHikari]

Maybe this movie/book can be used for good...like, after watching it with someone, and then telling them the truth. It sounds like it would be a good conversation starter. We Christians have to be on the ball though.

Also, about user ratings vs. critic ratings...you have to remember that there are...well, how can I put this delicately...a lot of people out there that don't know what a good movie is. Most people will just be like, "Oh, it was entertaining" and they'll give a positive rating just based on that. A lot of people don't think critically.

[Arnobius]

Also, about user ratings vs. critic ratings...you have to remember that there are...well, how can I put this delicately...a lot of people out there that don't know what a good movie is. Most people will just be like, "Oh, it was entertaining" and they'll give a positive rating just based on that. A lot of people don't think critically.

True, though on the other hand professional critics also focus on things most of us might never notice unless it was truly bad like the cinematography or lighting etc. I think most forms of art have the people who evaluate something based on what feeling it evokes and people who evaluate how the art was made. I don't think one is necessarily superior to the other. They tend to have different focuses.

[Animus Seed]

...However, the worst of this is what my mom told me yesterday after seeing that movie guide: The movie has already been released in China, and the people there are believing it as the truth about the Bible, Christianity, and everything. Worse, the Christians there are losing faith because of it. There are people there who have stopped believing because of it. ...

You know, I'm not sure I believe that. I mean, the non-Christians, sure, maybe. But the Chinese Christians losing faith over a movie? Persuction and martyrdom is a very real experience over there. With their lives already on the line if they believe the way they do, I can't see a movie making much difference.

[mitsuki lover]

I wouldn't rely on hearsay,which this probably sounds like.

[Bobtheduck]

*D'OH! disregard this comment.

[Arnobius]

Actually I was trying to compare controversy, not content. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my post. LTC was a movie where unfortunately the way the protests were handled provided free publicity to the movie

Unfortunately I have seen LTC about 12 or 13 years ago (so if any of the details seem sketchy, bear with me... it's been awhile) and found the experience unpleasant

As I recall the controversy was not so much of accusation of heresy that was leveled at the movie, but rather blasphemy with the portrayal of Christ being shown doing things that offended many Christians.

There were some issues in the movie that went beyond the "Last Temptation" on the cross itself involving the character of Jesus in the movie. As I recall one of them was that Jesus was refusing to take his role as a prophet and was actively assisting the Romans crucify the prophets God sent by making the crosses the Romans used. The Jesus of that movie was nothing like the Jesus of the Gospels. He was a weak, whiny individual who had the martyr's role thrust on him. It also portrayed him as a sinful man.

Unfortunately similar to the DVC, there were people out there who took it seriously (though not on the scale of DVC). I had a friend who believed, for example, that Jesus had to be human because "God couldn't die" and therefore only a human could make the choice to die for others.

Anyway, that was my experience with Last Temptation

[Bobtheduck]

ah, then disregard my statement... Guess I should know better than defending a moving I haven't seen... I was under the impression the movie was just about the temptation...

[Arnobius]

ah, then disregard my statement... Guess I should know better than defending a moving I haven't seen... I was under the impression the movie was just about the temptation...

No problem. I myself haven't read the book, so perhaps they added unneccesarily graphic stuff for the movie

[Animus Seed]

... I had a friend who believed, for example, that Jesus had to be human because "God couldn't die" and therefore only a human could make the choice to die for others.

Which is kind of a perversion of the truth, in a way... since your friend is right, God can't die, so Jesus needed to be human; but a human's death isn't enough to pay for sin, so Jesus needed to be God. Only if Jesus was 100% human and 100% God could His Death have paid for our sins.

I find it interesting that neo-Gnosticism, of the sort that Brown and the "Jesus Seminar" advocate, claims Jesus was only human and cite the Gnostic "gospels" as their source, while the old Gnostics that are treated as heroes today and wrote those "gospels" in the first place in fact believed that Jesus was only God, and not human at all.
Weird.

[rocklobster]

Unfortunately all the bad reviews didn't stop it from reaching no. 1.
Once again, we Catholics are reminded that the only acceptable prejudice is anti-Catholocism.