Somthing wicked this way comes!

To Write Love on Her Arms · Postby **ZiP** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:36 pm

Harry Potter 3 (HP3) is coming out in the summer of 2004!!!!!
you can check out the teaser here: http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/web/dailyprophet/article.jsp?id=POA_Teaser_Trailer
check it out before this offer ends- ah sry channled a sailsman....

Postby **kaze** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:00 pm

it looks so awesome! june 4th is such a long ways away...

Postby **Stephen** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:45 pm

Harry Potter! OH BOY! (sorry that was uncalled for...I just detest everything about Harry Potter) What gets me the most is that Rowling is compared with Tolkin somtimes.....that is so perveted and wrong.

Postby **Technomancer** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:11 am

Edited with apologies to Shatterheart. For the record, I'd agree that Tolkien and Rowling are hardly comparable. However, as far as young people's literature is concerned, she is definately a cut above her contemporaries.

Postby **Straylight** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:42 am

Personally I've never been a huge fan..

Postby **Heaven's Cloud** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:30 pm

First of all I'd love to get this off my chest, I despise Harry Potter more than having to go through 3 steps to shut down a computer! It's all my opinion though, but if I do say so my self the whole series is horrible.I am with you Shatterheart.

No offence to you people that like it, I understand, many people like it, and many people dislike it. When you compare J.R.R. Tolkien to Rowling, most kids would say, who is J.R.R. Tolkien. He's been dead since 1973, and yet he just gets noticed because of the movies based on his books.

Sorry, no offense to any of you. I just have to say that I don't like Harry Potter. But I know people who don't like Lord of the Rings, and that is fine, it is all your opinion, but I must share mine.

Back on the movie topic, I don't think I'll be going to see that movie. I saw the first movie, and I didn't enjoy it all that much. The story line bothered me (and that's not because of witchcraft, just because it's not my kind of story and all).

Sorry all, like I said, had to get that off of my chest!

Postby **Stephen** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:41 pm

Edit....uh....look over there!

Postby **cbwing0** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:34 pm

I also despise Harry Potter, although I will admit that I haven't read the books or seen the movies. That may make my opinion uninformed, but you have to draw the line somewhere: a children's book is a children's book.

Postby **Technomancer** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:42 pm

Then by all means read the books (or at least the first one). Most of what's been said about the series is flat-out hyperbole. I would much rather that kids read Harry Potter than junk like professional wrestling or G.I Joe.

Postby **Tet-chan** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:23 am

Its not advisable to read the book as well

Postby **cbwing0** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:45 am

Then by all means read the books (or at least the first one). Most of what's been said about the series is flat-out hyperbole. I would much rather that kids read Harry Potter than junk like professional wrestling or G.I Joe.

That doesn't say very much about how it compares to books written for adults. At any rate, I prefer nonfiction, so Harry Potter is at the bottom of my to-read list (meaning I will never read it unless I'm stuck on a desert island with nothing else more interesting).

Postby **CAAOutkast** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:14 am

Hary Potter Is Nothing More Than 100% Pure Fantasy{like yu-gi-oh and card captors}, If You Don't Take The Harry Potter Series Seriously ,You'll Be Fine. Besides Conversions To Witchcraft From Watching A Harry Potter Movie Or Reading A H.P. Book Are Pretty Low.

Remember that The Deitys Of Wichcraft Are Fallen Angels That Obey Only Satan. Stay True To the One True God,And Watch As Your Life Gets Greater.

See Ya and God Bless
Steve

Postby **Heaven's Cloud** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:17 pm

True true. I don't really despise it because of witchcraft and wizadry, I know it's fantasy, I just don't like it, it's not really something I'm interested in.

Postby **cbwing0** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:23 pm

Same here.

Postby **Michael** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:49 pm

<Harry Potter! OH BOY! (sorry that was uncalled for...I just detest everything about Harry Potter) What gets me the most is that Rowling is compared with Tolkin somtimes.....that is so perveted and wrong.>

Says the man with the Crow in his Sig.

Postby **Ashley** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:16 pm

Hey now guys, easy. That was a litte uncalled for Michael. *points traffic back on topic*

Postby **Azier the Swordsman** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:32 pm

Considering the many different views on Harry Potter among the Christian community, this is one topic that may be grounds for turning into a flame war...

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:20 am

Hmm... I was really surprised when I read the "Plugged In" review(focus on the family) of the two Harry Potter movies... They wouldn't take a stance on the Magic issue, instead focusing on the "role model" issue... As far as that goes, I don't find a need to have a 13 year old role model, so that's a non-issue for me... And, unlike the reports that I have heard, believed, and at one point (embarassingly so) parroted, I found the fantasy elements in it to not only be innocuous but actually quite nostalgic... It reminds me of many old things my mom WILLINGLY showed me (I watched a lot of old brittish children's movies when I was a kid... Oh, and then there's "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" which is on par with the references)

It is sad that it's something I can't share with most of my friends because of the controversy, so I may not bother with the rest of the movies or ever getting the books... Or, I may if I still have HBO by the time it comes around there... It's not that big of a deal, I suppose.

In reference to the "children's books" comments, there are other children's books with a similar feel that many adults enjoy and many christians hold in high esteem... In fact, his books are "staples" in many Christian schools (hehe, get it?)... I do like the two HP movies, but I suppose my viewing habbits are broader than most people I know.

I don't feel that fantasy such as this is something to worry about, but I do wish it were more clear-cut and there wasn't such a split on an issue as small as entertainment choice...

Postby **Shao Feng-Li** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:38 pm

i think the books aer just simply evil. a friend of mine recieved a set for christmas one year, and creepy stuff was happening. i think the books just teach kids hoe to be good wizards and witches.
what's really lame is that the wizards are good and the people are bad (like harry's aunt and uncle, er what ever) those to negelected the kid and then the witches take care of him. its like they make witches aaand such "good"

Postby **Twilly Spree** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:23 pm

I personally am pumped for the movie (and the 6th book). I really want to see what the new director does with it. The 3rd is by far my favorite book. Aww man the dementors are creepy stuff, I can't wait see them come to life.

I feel I have to disagree with you Ruroken, and I will do it as tactfully as possible. At the base level Harry Potter is about good and evil. It is not out there to teach children how to be witches and wizards. It is a wonderful story with great characters. I also have to say that in the books the wizards aren't all good as the people of the world aren't all bad. Yes, Harry's extended family is shown as bad because they made him live in a closet until he was 11 and a variety of other terrible things. But other normal people are good. Hermione's parents for example are just normal dentists. There are also a great deal of evil wizards that have used their powers in the wrong way. Harry Potter presents wonderful ideas to children about standing up for yourself, courage, friendship, the idea that one person can make a difference, not to judge people merely on appearance, and a variety of other admirable traits.

I don't mind those that don't read or like it. But I do mind those that feel it's out there to teach children how to be wizards. It's just fantasy.

Postby **Shao Feng-Li** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:02 pm

perhaps i shouldnt be so quick to judge. I should have stated that im only going by things that i havbe heard from church members and such

Postby **Twilly Spree** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:07 pm

I hope I didn't come off rude Ruroken. I just wanted to state my opinion on the matter. I just really think people are taking Harry Potter way out of context. *shrug* maybe the same people that ban books like Huck Finn from libraries.

Haha edited because I can't spell.

Postby **madphilb** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:22 pm

Well, hopefully those same church members aren't like some of the ones that I used to attend church with, passing around things like that "Onion" article as fact.

Fankly when I started reading the Narnia books, I felt they "talked down" alot more to the reader than any of the HP books have. I've still been enjoying the Narnia series though. (which, BTW, are Children's books)

Over the past 20 years I've seen the same tact taken with Harry as they took with Pokemon and much earlier, D&D... sadly most of the opinions on these things where done without any real knowledge, and usually those who did could tell right away. D&D was accused of giving instruction of how to cast spell taken from satanic and witchcraft sources, there where also those saying that with the roll of the dice you would cut off someone's genitals.... yet none of that is in the D&D manuals. The same sort of stuff is being said about Harry.

As for wierd things happening.... I've spent quite a while doing a certain amount of tech work for PCs and the like.... if I could just remember my falicies.... there's one that applies.... anyway... just cuz one thing procedes another doesn't mean the 1st one is the cause (kinda like bad luck after a black cat crosses your path). Short of someone really into witchcraft who enlisted the aid of real demonic forces against that family, I would have to say it's coincedence rather than cause and effect (that's the one... duh!) Doesn't mean the "wierd stuff" isn't real, just saying that it's not specifically a bunch of paper with ink and some glue doing it.

Well, I've said too much again I think... or maybe not.

Stoked myself for the next movie and book (though I could live without the movie, I'll see it at least once it's hit DVD... might even add it to the 1st two, which I said I wasn't going to buy).

To Write Love on Her Arms · Postby **ZiP** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:15 am

O my gosh, look I created this thread for the few people
who ENJOY the Harry Potter books, why does everyone have to hate on them?
ALSO when did i compare JK rowling to CS lewis?
and why are the sooo uncomparable, they both write books with magic in them.

Postby **Kokhiri Sojourn** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:01 pm

I like the HP books quite a lot. The movies have been pretty good despite the poor acting (IMO) of the guy that plays Harry. I do think that people make this series a much bigger problem than it should be made into, but along the same lines, if children cannot discriminate between fiction and nonfiction, the parents should be more careful. I take these books straight as fiction. I do not believe that we are limited to reading material that we agree with. Otherwise, there is not very much classic Literature that I could have read. This is a good example, again, in my opinion, and I know that people do have problems with them. I will respect that. However, if I took this stance on the HP books, I would be in my own mind contradicting myself in watching most anime also. Fiction is fiction, and this is why I think I can read the HP books without a problem. This is not an argument. Just a statement of my opinions on the issue. =^)

Postby **DoMiNiQuE** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:21 pm

ah man! first it started off as a " I cant wait till HP3 comes out!!!!" and noow... a talk about " I hate HP3!" lets keep it on the subject instead talking negitive ppl!!1

I CANT WAIT TILL Hp3 either!!!

Postby **Retten** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:17 pm

I will just give my quick 2 cents on this topic
1 You cannot compare Lord Of The Rings and Narnia to Harry Potter there are extreme difference between them. There are many books on this very topic and im sure they can explain it better than myself so I recommend you look for them if you having doubts in this aspect.
2 I really would like to see anyone here who reads Harry potter to tell me that there is absolutely no problem reading the books. I know for a fact that there are many verses in the Bible that in themselves would tell you not to read Harry Potter. I would ask anyone that does read them to take a look at these sites and tell me if you still feel the same about the books.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/harrypotter.html
http://www.theharrypottervideo.com/main/hp-dvd.php
http://www.carylmatrisciana.com/main/articles.php
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/012/34.113.html

Now you can choose to ignore this post altogether and continue to read the books and maybe nothing at all will happen to you and everything will be fine but wouldn't it be even better if you took the time to really look at what your reading and compare it to the Bible there is a very powerful message behind the Potter books and its not for good, I wouldn't want any harm to come to you because of it. But most of all I would recommend you take some time and pray

Postby **Destroyer2000** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:48 am

Hm...so you say that people shouldn't play RPGs and stuff because *some* of them have lots of magic? I'm not defending Harry Potter. I despise it, and I've never read the books, I only touched one once and read the little inside flap things. I've never seen the movies, nor am I ever going to see them or buy the games. Now, I know almost nothing about Harry Potter, but it's common sense. It's EVIL!

As for the RPGs, I'm referring to TES: Morrowind. It's a massively open RPG. You can do nearly anything in there. I'm not a mage, but I do use various enchanted items, scrolls, potions, and a few spells. They come useful for travel and such. I think like 1 Corinthians Chp 8, about the meat sacrificed to idols. It says something along the lines of, "Since you know that idols are empty and are false 'gods', and there is only one true God, though there are many so called 'gods' out there, the meat has nothing wrong with it, as the idol is nothing. But if your brother finds it offensive to eat meat sacrificed to idols, and it presents a stumbling block for him, it is a sin against Christ, you should never eat the meat again. If it doesn't offend him, then you are alright. You won't grow closer to God or farther away from God by eating it."

I apply that to RPGs and the such. The thing about Harry Potter is, though, that it tries to promote witchcraft, and the writer of the Harry Potter series practices and dabbles in satanism, witchcraft, and the like. LOTRs is different, because Tolkein was a Christian arthur, as was C.S. Louis.

Postby **Kisa** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:54 pm

Hope I don't sound weird or anything, but just the whole thing about promoting witches and wizards and all doesn't sit too well with me. -_-

Postby **Fsiphskilm** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:37 pm

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