Aslan knocks the socks of Harry!

[rocklobster]

[quote="Kawaiikneko"]Oh dear, I hate that stupid chainmail... As far as I know that is a blatant lie. However, she did do some research into cultish stuff, for things like the wood their wands.

This is, however, completely irrelevant. Let's not get into that overdone debate.

[rocklobster]

Oh dear, I hate that stupid chainmail... As far as I know that is a blatant lie. However, she did do some research into cultish stuff, for things like the wood their wands.

THAT WAS IN THE ONION! AN ONLINE SATIRE SITE of all things! They should be stoned and hexed for that! I can't believe people bought into The Onion's joke!

[Mangafanatic]

Oh dear, I hate that stupid chainmail... As far as I know that is a blatant lie. However, she did do some research into cultish stuff, for things like the wood their wands.

This is, however, completely irrelevant. Let's not get into that overdone debate.

BRAVO! Ten points for you.

Let's not let a perfectly good thread be poisoned by stupid rumors. It's too nice a thread to be beaten to a bloody pulp by Harry Hating.

THAT WAS IN THE ONION! AN ONLINE SATIRE SITE of all things! They should be stoned and hexed for that! I can't believe people bought into The Onion's joke!

All it takes for this to happen is one person who does a google search and wants to believe what's being said without realizing that The Onion specializes in satires. That one person tells one person, who tells one person, who tells one person, and *VOILA!* we have a beautiful internet rumor!

[yukinon]

well, Five Iron Frenzy says "it's on the internet, so it must be true".

I digress.

[Tommy]

Voyage of Dawn treader will have a lsightly different cast and so will Silver chair. I`d like to see what order they come in.

[TurkishMonky]

hopefully i don't pull htis thread into evil war, but i'm curious, what was the opening dayfor the first HP movie? since they are both series, that would likely be the best point of comparison.

alo, i do hope they get a good Eustice. that character will make or break the voyage of the dawn treader.

[Nate]

hopefully i don't pull htis thread into evil war, but i'm curious, what was the opening dayfor the first HP movie?

Opening Day for Narnia: $23,006,856

Opening Day for Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone: $32,333,203

[uc pseudonym]

All it takes for this to happen is one person who does a google search and wants to believe what's being said without realizing that The Onion specializes in satires. That one person tells one person, who tells one person, who tells one person, and *VOILA!* we have a beautiful internet rumor!

There was an internet chain-letter with the Onion link that I strongly suspect was started by someone intending less than the best for Christianity.

It's called "reading everyone else's posts." Try it.

Actually, he wanted to compare "Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone" with this movie, because they are both the first movie in a series.

[Nate]

Actually, he wanted to compare "Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone" with this movie, because they are both the first movie in a series.

D'OH! Misread his post!

*inserts foot in mouth and takes his own advice*

I'll go see what I can scrounge up related to that...

QUICK EDIT: I've fixed my previous post with the correct info.

[TurkishMonky]

thanks! i'm not really on one side or the other, but that is interesting

[Bobtheduck]

I'm sure he would have a problem. Last time I knew, Rowling is/ was a practicing 'witch' while Lewis was steadfast Christian.

No... Rowling isn't a witch... She is actually, I believe, part of a Christian denomination that views most of the events in the Bible, New and Old Testament, to be metaphorical, and doesn't believe in miracles or prophecy... While I am not sure I would call that "Christian" it's definately not wiccan... Wiccans definately believe in the supernatural, as do all Magick practicing religions...

And I am almost certain Lewis wouldn't care about the magic in Harry Potter, though he may not like other aspects of it...

[Lady Macbeth]

And I am almost certain Lewis wouldn't care about the magic in Harry Potter, though he may not like other aspects of it...

Considering the amount of magic in his books, I doubt he would have much objection. His may not have been the blatant wand-waving pointed-hat witches' magic, but it's not every day that people just wander through wardrobes into another world.

[Shao Feng-Li]

Well, while Narnia is an alagoricle story (That's the point of it methinks...), Harry Potter is about kids becoming Wizards and Witches, at least to my understanding.

[Sakura15]

Well, while Narnia is an alagoricle story (That's the point of it methinks...), Harry Potter is about kids becoming Wizards and Witches, at least to my understanding.

Thats my understanding too.

[Bobtheduck]

Actually, Harry potter can be taken as allegory too, just not biblical one... It's an allegory of WWII, racism, and the brittish boarding school system.

[Tommy]

Random thought, Lord of the Rings was claimed to be an allegory of WWII.
I do not think CS Lewis intended this to be claimed an allegroy but just a plain story.

[uc pseudonym]

Considering the amount of magic in his books, I doubt he would have much objection. His may not have been the blatant wand-waving pointed-hat witches' magic, but it's not every day that people just wander through wardrobes into another world.

Subtle distinction: Bobtheduck was saying that Lewis wouldn't have been bothered by magic, but may not have liked other elements. Harry's highly questionable morality, for example. You are certainly correct in saying that The Chronicles of Narnia are loaded with magic.

Well, while Narnia is an alagoricle story

Actually, it isn't. It takes place in our existance, merely in another dimension. Attempting to make the series allegorical causes odd problems in interpretation, though it is obvious that Lewis used that method at times. For example, Edmond plays a Judas role, yet he finds a redemption Judas didn't.

Random thought, Lord of the Rings was claimed to be an allegory of WWII.

Tolkien was quoted as saying it wasn't, though I couldn't cite you a source on that. If you've read any of the explanations of this "allegory" I think you'll find them rather amusing. All allegories break down eventually, but these do so extremely quickly.

[Nate]

I do not think CS Lewis intended this to be claimed an allegroy but just a plain story.

"If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality however he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, 'What might Christ become like, if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?' This is not allegory at all." - C.S. Lewis

[Mangafanatic]

Harry Potter is about kids becoming Wizards and Witches, at least to my understanding.

A minor point which I just would like to clarify on:

Harry and Company did not become a witch or wizard at Hogwarts. They had the abilities from birth (example: Harry's releasing the Anaconda on his 11th birthday or Voldemort's terrorizing the bunny at the orphanage, prior to their advent at Hogwarts), but they were taught to control and strengthen their abilities at Hogwarts. Just thought I'd throw that in.

[rocklobster]

Agreed. It's more like in the case of X-Men. They start with their abilities dormant in most cases and their powers manifest and become stronger as they mature in age.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

The Chronicles of Narnia are suppousals, not allegory.