KEmisao wrote this one up. It's very detailed. ^^
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Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo
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Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo
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Gypsy - Posts: 4056
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Thanks for the review! I've been quite interested in this title since its premiere in Japan.
One quick question, though: In browsing through some fansub message boards, I saw a few people who, early on in the series, thought they might be seeing some Shounen-ai undertone developing? Would you agree or disagree with this inferrence?
One quick question, though: In browsing through some fansub message boards, I saw a few people who, early on in the series, thought they might be seeing some Shounen-ai undertone developing? Would you agree or disagree with this inferrence?
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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Those who see shonen-ai in it, are somewhat justified, because [spoiler] Albert does have a way of being too close to the Count on many occasions, wanting to always hang around him. If it's not the Count, it's Franz. And the more crazier thinking people also attribute a shonen-ai relationship between Franz and Albert, beyond being best friends. [/spoiler]
However this is not encouraged by the anime per se. I mean, it's not implied at, not like it would be implied in Yami no Matsuei, for example, such that it's unavoidable. If you don't think about it that way, there's nothing to see. ^^
Hope that helps.
EK 8 )
However this is not encouraged by the anime per se. I mean, it's not implied at, not like it would be implied in Yami no Matsuei, for example, such that it's unavoidable. If you don't think about it that way, there's nothing to see. ^^
Hope that helps.
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EKmisao - Posts: 76
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When you say "too close," are we talking physically or emotionally?
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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Mangafanatic wrote:When you say "too close," are we talking physically or emotionally?
Both actually. Personally I never thought that throughout the whole series. It wasn't until I read some fan comment when I was almost done that it even ocurred to me to look at it that way. Of course I am a HUGE fan of the book though so that may have affected my perception of it.
[spoiler]Albert definately likes girls, and he doesn't show any inclination of wanting to become a "couple" with the Count of anything like that. Really it's more that he's obsessed with/a huge fan of the Count. Albert's convinced the Count can do no wrong, and he thinks the Count is unbelievably cool and really looks up to him.
Also Haydee's relationship with the Count is different in the anime then it is in the book. That may be another reason why some of those people think they can come up shonen-ai in the first place. [/spoiler]
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Thanks for the information. That's what I was looking for.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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... can we up the sexual content rating on this one... its a little more than a 2. There was the thing with Peppo, and then the count and madame villefort, and then the thing with Madame Danglars and Monsieur Villefort, and then the part with Madame Danglars and Andreas. ^^; I just don't want anyone to be mislead, b/c while the intended rape was the only thing actually showed, there are many things implied/shown ending/shown beginning ect.
there's also the whole thing of Peppo being a guy, not a girl
As for the whole Franz Albert thing, I say guys can be close friends, don't you? You can love a friend as a friend. Shounen ai fans take things all the wrong way >.< It was a beautiful friendship! grr Albert has an obsession with the count, but its not in a romantic way.
there's also the whole thing of Peppo being a guy, not a girl
As for the whole Franz Albert thing, I say guys can be close friends, don't you? You can love a friend as a friend. Shounen ai fans take things all the wrong way >.< It was a beautiful friendship! grr Albert has an obsession with the count, but its not in a romantic way.
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Righto, I'll get right on it. It's good that you guys are posting details and stuff in this thread, but if it's something that really needs to be updated in the review, toss me a PM and it'll probably get fixed faster that way. Maybe ... You guys know how I am about keeping up with the review stuff sometimes. 
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I always wondered how that one detail got passed over initially. But I was kinda chicken to mention it- then later forgot anyway.
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Two points of business: that's quite the gravedig, RD! Also. Monte Cristos are probably the best sandwich ever.
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