I believe I will limit my comments to the story and related issues... or at least those will be my focus.
a variety of people wrote:stuff about Yoda comment to Obi Wan near the end
I am somewhat surprised at how many people said they felt this was poorly explained. When I saw it I thought it made perfect sense]Second, they didn't SHOW it. Yeah, yeah, I know, they probably weren't able to get Liam Neeson to reprise the role, but it would've been nice if they'd shown a five-second cameo of a blue Qui Gonn.[/quote]
kaemmerite wrote:Third, Yoda explained that it was a skill that had to be LEARNED. Hence why Yoda told Obi Wan that he had more training to do. Shiroi mentioned this a bit in her post. Yoda was a pretty big master already, and if you remember, Obi Wan was around with Yoda in the later movies, so Obi Wan could've taught Yoda how to do it. The point is, if you have to learn it, who taught Anakin? Because remember, Anakin was hanging around with Yoda and Obi Wan at the end of Jedi. Come to think of it, if Qui Gonn and Obi Wan were such good pals, why wasn't Qui Gonn at the celebration at the end of Jedi too?
My interpretation: From other lines, we know that all beings join the Force when they die. It strikes me that (this being a movie) they could well have a blue form that does whatever dead people do there. But ordinarily they cannot directly interact with the world (like Obi Wan later does). I thought that this skill allowed a Jedi/Sith to manifest themselves, not give them a form in the first place. Hence, Anakin still exists as a "ghost" but could not just walk up to Luke and start chatting.
termyt wrote:Least favorit line: Obi - "only the Sith see in absolutes"
This makes me curious enough to ask you why.
ShiroiHikari wrote:I was thinking the same thing myself.
Glad to hear I wasn't the only one.
AnimeHeretic wrote:I don't think that was what Lucas originally meant. I'd call it plot hole...
Ah, but to a fanperson, there can be no plot holes. Instead, we should go to
any logical lengths to avoid this conclusion (though in this case, there's at least a plausible explanation).
Raiden no Kishi wrote:Fact is, the Sith are more combat-inclined than Jedi are.
I disagree. If the Jedi actually
used all the powers they show at any point (particularly manipulating things with the force... how much would it take to crush the blood vessels to a person's brain?) they would be nearly unstoppable. Considering three different Jedi show the ability to negate or throw back force lightning, it doesn't seem to be a great advantage (it does less damage than a blaster does).
Crusader X wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that Obi-Wan's statement itself is an absolute?
Yes, quite. Can you imagine the line in a different form, though? "Generally speaking, the people that commonly use absolutes are mostly Sith."
Crusader X wrote:No wonder the Jedi fell. Their philosophy was full of holes and contradictions.
Or, rather, the philosophy of Lucas.
Shao Feng-Li wrote:One does not go running like that even more so without holding your belly.
This is inconsequential, but: not necessarily. My mother played volleyball the morning before the night I was born.
This is out of context, but I'll briefly agree with those who stated that they felt Anakin's conversion was too brief. There were also numerous times when I winced at how poorly some Jedi worded things; with a bit of tact most of the plot might not have happened.
Hayden was better this time around obviously good to see he finally went all out evil and wasted some innocents Vader style. I didn't like the fact, like others mentioned, that his transformation from confused and doubtful to almost full blown butt smooching Sith Lord was so abrupt. But whatcha gonna do with 2 and a half hours? Padme was ehh... do I need to say anything that hasn't already been said. Battles...please best of all time in movie history well at least up there. A fitting end for the Lucas Star Wars movie saga. Now where's the TV series?:)
I think it's good just as it is.
