Is the Sin City movie ok for Christians?

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Postby Crossdive » Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:55 pm

i knew [SPOILER]Frank Miller was a priest in the film (i figured, but wasn't sure, if he would get killed)[/SPOILER]. I am just stressed now that i have to wait for Netflix, because i am not 17, so i can't see the film without the blasted escort by an adult or something bit. i prayed and thought and listened and watched trailers and read my Bible on whether to see this or not, the answer came back a yes. now i am just going to have to test my patience, either that or i can put on tall boots, sunglasses, a hat, and a big trenchcoat, so i can get in :P
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Postby Stephen » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:06 pm

Sneaking into an R rated film at your age would be wrong. Either get a parent to go with you, or have them rent it for you when it comes out on DVD.
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Postby mechana2015 » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:16 am

I personally dont think that ANY person under 17 should see this movie. This is really one of the ones where the ratings mean it. The content in the move really is of the sort that the person watching it needs to be of a mature mindset. Despite the film being in B&W and a masterpiece of film inginuity, its at least as violent as the Punisher, Pulp Fiction or Resivoir Dogs (Tarantino did guest direct).
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Postby Jeikobu » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:26 pm

I just think this film looks to full of objectional material. Even if it didn't have any actual nudity, the prostitutes and all would really hurt if not ruin the film for me. But by what I've heard, and what I've seen of the trailers, this is just not one I ever want to see. This looks far too scummy. And my dad, who is a strong believer, said he really, really didn't feel good about it when he saw the trailer. I'm definitely skipping this.
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Postby Crossdive » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:57 pm

shatterheart: i was clearly joking, though part of me of course would wish to, i wouldn't because it is wrong.

mechana: well, i saw The Punisher, and LOVED LOVED LOVED it, i own it on DVD, i saw it in theatres with my dad and siblings on opening day, and while i wasn't into the content of language or nudity (i am not easily bothered by violence), it didn't by any means kill the film for me.

jeikobu: i am not asking you to see it, i respect everyone's own descernment and opinion and decision, i wouldn't ask anyone who didn't want to see it to do so. I have confidence in the decisions of others in matters such as this, but i, after some heavy prayer and thought and research, have made my own decision, i ask no more or less respect for my decision from others than what i give to them for their's. if you believe this movie is one you can see, go for it, i won't argue. if you don't, that's fine, pass on it and see if i have any bashing to give you for it.
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Postby Jeikobu » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:04 pm

I was just stating my opinion, I wasn't telling you to change your's. ^^;
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Postby Crossdive » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:32 pm

i know, i just wanted to make sure dude ;)
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Postby TrigunX89 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:15 am

I saw the movie today... er... I mean yesterday. It's late.

From a technical standpoint, it was awesome! The style and visuals were amazing. That fight with Kevin (Elijah Woods) really stood out to me too. I coulda sworn it was a cartoon! The cast was loaded, and the interwoven stories were very well-written and memorable. Flipping sweet.

For the objectional content, well... *sigh* Swearing wasn't too bad from what I remember. Violence was present and often pretty disturbing throughout the whole movie. Lots of decapitations and stuff. And then there's the nudity. We see some breasts... not exactly brief shots either. We also see people having sex... though only from the waist up. And lots of prostitutes with skimpy clothes.

I found myself very disturbed through some parts of the movie, but looking back, I really enjoyed the movie as a whole. I'd like to see it again.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:36 am

My friend, said it's like a mix of Saw, Sky Captain, and a porno... Of course, I don't know how many "pornos" he's seen, so he probably just means there was a lot of nudity in it...

He often overreacts when he doesn't like things and gives a lot of grace to things he does (Totally offended by Silence of the Lambs but is perfectly fine with stuff like Southpark: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, as well as the TV show) so I don't know what to think... Of course, I know the American adult comic industry tends to be pretty graphic, so I would tend to believe him on this... It did look interesting, though... Trying to one-up Pleasantville technically (which was trying to one-up Schindler's List technically) and make, as they described it, essentially a moving, talking "comic book" (I put that in quotes because that term should be more vague and general than people tend to use it...)

EDIT: I read the Plugged-In review... I am sick to my stomach by just that review... The method that one character kills all his victims... There is not a chance in a frozen over hell where pigs fly free over the homecoming cows that I'd see this movie... *heaves*
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Postby Yojimbo » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:57 pm

I'm seeing it tonight finally.:thumb:
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:59 pm

I'd like to see it eventually. Mainly because of the neato style and violent content.
I could do without the sex, but I'll just eat the meat and discard the bones, I suppose.
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Postby Yojimbo » Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:39 pm

This movie was awesome! Two of my favorite styles, film noir and ultra violent Tarantino esque in one! And some of my favorite actors like Bruce Willis, Michael Madson, and Powers Booth. But this movie is not for everyone if you can't handle Tarantino movies like Reservoir Dogs or Kill Bill do not go see this. This had to be the goriest movie I've ever seen. But gosh I loved it so much because this was my kind of movie. Film noir is back I expect two clones in the next two years.

Does your friend only watch movies made in the last three years or something Bob? Saw? Sky Captain? Not even close. If anything it's hardboiled 50's noir films like Asphalt Jungle and Tarantino movie like Pulp Fiction wrapped into one. But really it's not even fair to the movie to say that. It just borrows some things like the narrating style of noir and the violent style of Tarantino.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:39 pm

I just got Voumes 1, 3 and 4 of the graphic novel series (those are the ones covered in the film and I wanna read them before I see it). I've read 1 and 3 so far and they're both pretty good. I agree that no one under 17 should be anywhere near the movie or the books, but if you can handle it maturely and realize that it's just art/acting and it's all in context, then it's really good stuff. Does the sexual content bother me? Actually, no. Volume 3 "The Big, Fat Kill" features a bunch of hookers as some of its central characters, but although there is some nudity, it comes across as far from sexy. They've accidentally killed a hero cop and they're trying to prevent a turf war between them, the police department and the mob.
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Postby Twilly Spree » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:46 am

I saw it this weekend.....soooooo good. I really enjoyed it.
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Postby Crossdive » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:55 pm

I really am dying to see it, I just wish I didn't have to wait for netflix, but trust me, I am used to dark, edgy, mature, voilence, language, nudity, whatever, content. I think I, expecially from the support it has recieved here, on a Christian forum, am definately going to see it, I think just to be safe I will still view it ready to turn it off, but I do want to see it.
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Postby TrigunX89 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:37 am

To be honest, I was really disturbed at some parts of the film. I wasn't too sure I would be able to handle it. But I'm glad I did, because it was a pretty amazing movie. Few movies really leave my mind set on it after it's over, but this one really gripped me. I'm not too sure if that's a good thing or not... Anyways, if you can handle it, I highly recommend it. But just be warned that it has some pretty disturbing parts, and a fair amount of nudity.
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Postby Stephen » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:36 pm

This is an R rated film. So I am rather saddend by the ammount of people posting on this thread who have seen it...and are not very old. Its rated R for a reason. Yes there is a bit of nudity, yes there is violence. Its why ratings boards are in place in the first place. I did however enjoy this film...it was very unique and a fun way to spend a few hours. Classic quote. [SPOILER]"She dident really decapatate him...she really just turned him into a Pez despenser"[/SPOILER]
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Postby spiritusvult » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:55 pm

To deny that Sin City is an artistically rich film would be a crime. That being said, I'm not sure that a movie about somewhat descent people being driven to murder through incredibly graphic violence and brutality (canibalism and child abuse to name a few) is something that I can, in good conscience, recomend to anyone, let alone Christians. I left the film feeling contaminated, like I'd walked through some kind of stinking bog and I stunk for a while because of it. But maybe that's just me.

An interesting sidenote is a report the http://www.drudgereport.com put out saying that the weekend the Pope died Americans were watching Sin City.
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Postby Stephen » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:24 am

The whole world does not stop for one person dieing. I am sorry, but not to sound rude...but I was sad when I heard the Pope died. On the same note though, I did not lock myself in a box under my bed and stop living.
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Postby mechana2015 » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:12 am

Exactly...technically, stopping everything for mourning is actually a psycologically destrucive behavior, and can really mess up things mentally. Keeping it in mind is OK...but stopping normal life especially for an event several thousand miles away (in most of our cases) might be...a little drastic.
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Postby Stephen » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:16 am

A comparrison that would be equally unfair, would be to find out what movies Europe was watching during the week of 9-11.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:05 pm

Shatterheart wrote:[SPOILER]"She dident really decapatate him...she really just turned him into a Pez despenser"[/SPOILER]


Heck yeah! "Deadly little Miho. You won't feel a thing, unless she wants you to."
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Postby mechana2015 » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:00 pm

Miho is one of my favorite cahrachters...just for her utter style and control in combat.
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:06 pm

I got the chance to view Sin City yesterday. Very good movie.

Hartigan's story was most interesting to myself.
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Postby TrigunX89 » Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:55 am

SpoonyBard wrote:Heck yeah! "Deadly little Miho. You won't feel a thing, unless she wants you to."


He feels it. ;)


I got to see the movie for the second time. This time I might have actually enjoyed it more, but I'm not sure. The first time was much more suspense-filled since I didn't know what was going to happen, but at the same time it was cool to just relax while watching it and pay more attention to detail and stuff. Also, all the violence and sex really had no effect on me this time, which is a plus.
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Postby Yojimbo » Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:54 pm

Impact Alberto wrote:I got the chance to view Sin City yesterday. Very good movie.

Hartigan's story was most interesting to myself.


Yeah Brucee Willis's story was the most interesting, he got to kiss Jessica Alba, and [spoiler]suicide aside[/spoiler] got the least painful death of anybody there.:P
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Postby Jeikobu » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:32 pm

spiritusvult wrote:To deny that Sin City is an artistically rich film would be a crime. That being said, I'm not sure that a movie about somewhat descent people being driven to murder through incredibly graphic violence and brutality (canibalism and child abuse to name a few) is something that I can, in good conscience, recomend to anyone, let alone Christians. I left the film feeling contaminated, like I'd walked through some kind of stinking bog and I stunk for a while because of it. But maybe that's just me.
Man, that is disgusting. Just another reason not to see it. And I understand that feeling you got, that's a good sign though that you felt that way, that's the Spirit's way of telling you it's wrong. ;)
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:06 pm

Jeikobu, no taking God's name in vain please. Thanks
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Postby Mithrandir » Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:30 pm

Two Friendly Notes:

1. Jeikobu, please see my insert in your post.
2. We are in favor of people being passionate about their beliefs, but let's try to keep the fervor from leaking straying into opinion bashing, everyone.
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Postby Sesshoumaru » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:27 pm

I don't see what the big deal about this movie is. The title is "Sin City" expect immoral content. Plus it's not like this stuff never happens nowadays. As screwed up as our world is I'm not surprised by the content of this movie. Plus there are animes like this: Really violent, full of corrupt immoral characters, sexuality etc. So what IS the big deal?? :eyeroll:
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