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Postby goldenspines » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:32 am

You're half right, Ryan.
Much of gender is socially influenced by the culture at the time. Yet, biological differences also play a significant role in defining gender; x and y chromosomes and the level of testosterone produced.
(PM me if you wish for further discussion, but I'd like to steer away from it in this thread for now)

That aside, we're getting off topic and this thread seems to have run its course.
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Postby Jingo Jaden » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:37 am

Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1514385) wrote:I'll pull a quote from wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_gender_difference


To summarize, people internalize what society describes as "male behaviors" or "female behaviors" (because gender is not the same as sex, this is very important to differentiate between). There's no inherent or intrinsic value/meaning to "masculine" or "feminine". They only exist because people have socially defined what those traits are and what they mean. Thus, they don't "exist" in the sense that they hold any sort of concrete meaning. They're made up ideas which people collectively accept as true. It's like money. Money has no actual worth. It's only worth something because society has created it as a means for exchange of other goods and services. Thus, its value is socially constructed, i.e. nonexistent.


Real currency-based economies are not compatible with monopoly money as you just outlined. If this was so, Zimbabwe would be the overall richest nation in the world. If it was totally abject of any value whatsoever, then elements such as inflation, purchasing power and general econometrics would not have existed. All of whom grant real power and balance to said money. It is not 'just' socially constructed with no intent of value or worth, and that's why you have monetary policies.

But if it really is nonexistent of value or worth as you claim, would you mind giving me some?

As far as the on-topic goes. I think this got a bit heated over a generalization. Nothing to jump up and down about as I am sure there was no intention of stating all females are a cloned with the same understanding, moral compass ect.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:31 pm

I really don't think masculinity and femininity are like Monopoly money at all...

The concepts of masculinity and femininity are as old as civilization. I think that trying to throw these concepts out of the window completely would just overcomplicate things.
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Postby ABlipinTime » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:15 pm

Oh no. We're quoting Wikipedia here? My former physics prof would rant over how unacademic this is. ... He's not at my school anymore.

I'm in the boat with Shiroi: I don't see how masculinity and femininity are like monopoly money.

and thank you FllMtl Novelist for your explanation earlier. that makes sense
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Postby MomentOfInertia » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:17 pm

Well, I think only women should birth babies.

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Postby Neane » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:36 pm

MomentOfInertia (post: 1514531) wrote:Well, I think only women should birth babies.

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What about Arnold Schwarzenegger?
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Postby ABlipinTime » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:28 pm

Even Arnold shouldn't birth babies.
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