Midori (post: 1457618) wrote:I'm surprised nobody's mentioned 1 Corinthians 14:1-25 yet. It is a very clear and thorough lesson from Paul on the subject of speaking in tongues, what it is good for, and what it is not good for. Though some of the time, I think he might mean speaking in foreign languages, I think it would still apply to glossolalia.
My own position on speaking in tongues? If it is to mean speaking in foreign languages you're not supposed to know, then I know the apostles did this and it is an amazing spiritual gift. If it is to mean glossolalia, I have never seen it being done, so I cannot make a very informed judgement about it. My default attitude is to be skeptical though. I can't see the good it would do anybody so I wouldn't consider it a 'gift', but like I said, I have never experienced it first- or second-hand, so I am not an authority on the topic.
Sheenar wrote:I've heard people pray in their prayer language.
Nate (post: 1457647) wrote:So yeah. Praying in tongues, especially with other people around, is a bad thing.
Shao Feng-Li (post: 1457833) wrote:Same here. Full immersion in a Pentecostal church. Never once have I had the urge for Holy babbling. Maybe I was doing it wrong XD
I'm with Nate. Praying in tongues around others does nothing for them at all.
Nate (post: 1457647) wrote:They're...they're actually not supposed to do that. The Bible says that's not good. From 1 Corinthians 14 (which Midori posted), 15-17 say
For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding]
Not necessarily. I don't have time to give a well supported response, but I can post the bare bones of it. The general response to this objection is that praying in tongues is only a bad thing around people when there is no interpretation of it. But Nate, I do think just about everyone will agree with you that if someone just blurts out things in tongues in the middle of a service, and there is no interpretation. Yeah, that's pretty useless.
I will say that I generally view praying in tongues as being more of a personal thing unless you have the gift of interpretation as well.Nate wrote:I'm a Christian, had a full-immersion baptism, and never spoken in tongues once. So she's clearly wrong about that.
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Peanut wrote:The general response to this objection is that praying in tongues is only a bad thing around people when there is no interpretation of it.
Peanut (post: 1458389) wrote:I'm guessing her friend meant the baptism in the Holy Spirit which is different then actual baptism (or at least I hope that's what they meant).
mechana2015 (post: 1458410) wrote:I've actually heard this terminology most commonly used in religious context to imply that someone isn't a Christian if they haven't had a 'baptism of the spirit', usually resulting in them 'speaking in tongues'. It seems to be equating it to a second part of actual baptism, or a sign that it 'took'... or something like that.
goldenspines wrote:Its only stealing if you don't get caught.
Atria35 (post: 1458518) wrote:Because I hadn't heard of it until about a year ago, when I made a friend who's one of the Charismatics, and was under the impression that it was something to be wary of, I ended up realizing that, while the church services she has are interesting, when everyone's speaking in tongues and praying, they hit a tone and pitch and rhythm that works as a hypnotic for me.
That was really hard to explain to her, since she was curious why I kept turning her down after two Sundays at her church.
But I realized there was no way that I would ever feel comfortable going into a church and essentially being hypnotized.
Peanut (post: 1458389) wrote:I'm guessing her friend meant the baptism in the Holy Spirit which is different then actual baptism (or at least I hope that's what they meant).
Sheenar wrote:My friend said that you need an interpreter to speak in tongues before the whole congregation, but don't if you're praying in your individual prayer language.
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