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Postby Peanut » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:15 pm

TWWK (post: 1428690) wrote:Ahhhh...oh well, I kind of figured it was coming. This is a very down year for UT...


Look at the bright side, your not a fan of the best team in the worst division in College Football. That might not sound bad, but when your team drops out of the rankings for only losing by 6 against a top 15 opponent with a ridiculous home field advantage...it shows.
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Postby TWWK » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:22 pm

Peanut (post: 1428693) wrote:Look at the bright side, your not a fan of the best team in the worst division in College Football. That might not sound bad, but when your team drops out of the rankings for only losing by 6 against a top 15 opponent with a ridiculous home field advantage...it shows.


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Postby Peanut » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:06 pm

So...is anybody else thinking that Stanford and Oregon might be the two best teams in the nation?
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:32 pm

Peanut wrote:So...is anybody else thinking that Stanford and Oregon might be the two best teams in the nation?


I am, but I still think Alabama is one of the two best teams in the country.

Standford and Oregon can score, but since Oregon has started playing the PAC 10, they can't really stop anyone.

Last week, I saw how ASU was putting up points at will on Oregon.


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Postby Peanut » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:05 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1428712) wrote:I am, but I still think Alabama is one of the two best teams in the country.

Standford and Oregon can score, but since Oregon has started playing the PAC 10, they can't really stop anyone.

Last week, I saw how ASU was putting up points at will on Oregon.


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True, we'll just have to see how things turn out. But right now, these guys are just ridiculous on offense.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:58 pm

I do think that Standford and Oregon will beat USC bad this year and I will laugh so hard as I get to see Lane Kitten have the same face that he had, when Wash beat him tonight.

For me, I'm still up and listen to the Hawaii vs Louisiana Tech game. with Hawaii up 24 to 7 starting in the 3rd quarter.

You know, I'm one to not take a loss hard and be upset about it, but this loss to LSU has hurt. But I'm over it now and now mad at the Vols fans that are posting on the online Knoxville news paper site about how they blame Derek Dooley for this loss and calling for his head already.


Geez, give the man some time. This is a very young team and one that was in worst shape after Kiffin left.

We don't have the depth and we hang in there with LSU at their home turf. We are learning this year and I feel that Dooley is going to be a better coach than what we had in Kiffin and his idiots.

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Postby Peanut » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:24 am

Roy Mustang (post: 1428744) wrote:You know, I'm one to not take a loss hard and be upset about it, but this loss to LSU has hurt. But I'm over it now and now mad at the Vols fans that are posting on the online Knoxville news paper site about how they blame Derek Dooley for this loss and calling for his head already.


While I can't relate to the hurt of the loss, I can relate to the rage at fans calling for a coaches head. After we lost to LSU, there were some fans on a WVU fan site I lurk on that were calling for Bill Stewart, Jeff Mulen, and/or Dave Johnson's head. After we lost by six against a very good football team, at their place, at night with a Sophmore quarterback, our top running back being hampered by injury, and our best Offensive linemen injured...yeah, I'd say they did pretty good all things considered. Seriously, what is it with fans and not giving coaches some time? There is always a transition period when you change coaches so lay off until the third or fourth year and then make your decision.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:28 pm

Peanut wrote:Seriously, what is it with fans and not giving coaches some time? There is always a transition period when you change coaches so lay off until the third or fourth year and then make your decision.


A lot of it has to do with the money that coaches are making and fans think that since how much your paying for them, then they think a coach can come in with a magic wand and change everything over night.

The problem is now with the high pay that coaches get, the more pressure on them and I fear that at some point, some of them are going to have some very bad health problems. Which showed with MSU coach over the ND win.

I knew that the Vols were not going to be the best this year as we are very thin and our depth. Most Vols fans like me that know this going to take some time to fix, knew this would be a hard year and it would be next year that would be the year to start seeing how good Dooley will be. But so far, it shows that he is a good coach as we did hang in with LSU and FLA for four quarters.

Put this way as how young a team that Dooley has,

UAB team had more scholarship players then we did. As far as I know, we don't even have 70 players on scholarship on our team. Some of the players that are playing on defense and some on offense are walk on players.

I think only one offense line player had playing time and what was only five or six games.


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Postby Peanut » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:55 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1428865) wrote:A lot of it has to do with the money that coaches are making and fans think that since how much your paying for them, then they think a coach can come in with a magic wand and change everything over night.


This is where (I think) WVU's situation differs from Tennessee's. At least in the beginning, Bill Stewart actually took a pay cut so his staff could be paid more. This is part of the reason we were able to get Doc Holliday (along with what seems to be a promise made to him by the AD involving Bill Stewart's job). In our case it was more of a "we've been spoiled for the past three years and can't handle nine win seasons" attitude then a "Bill Stewart is making too much money" attitude. Though still, I think you are right about this for the vast majority of College athletics along with athletics in general. With the economy the way it is, a lot of people have gotten very touchy about the attitudes and actions of athletes and coaches who are being paid quite a bit.

Roy Mustang wrote:The problem is now with the high pay that coaches get, the more pressure on them and I fear that at some point, some of them are going to have some very bad health problems. Which showed with MSU coach over the ND win.


I hadn't really thought about this but I think you're right. Urban Meyer would probably be another example. There is definitely a lot more pressure on these coaches then there were in years past and that might not be a good thing.

Roy Mustang wrote:I knew that the Vols were not going to be the best this year as we are very thin and our depth. Most Vols fans like me that know this going to take some time to fix, knew this would be a hard year and it would be next year that would be the year to start seeing how good Dooley will be. But so far, it shows that he is a good coach as we did hang in with LSU and FLA for four quarters.

Put this way as how young a team that Dooley has,

UAB team had more scholarship players then we did. As far as I know, we don't even have 70 players on scholarship on our team. Some of the players that are playing on defense and some on offense are walk on players.

I think only one offense line player had playing time and what was only five or six games.


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Not just hung in, should have won. Yes, that penalty was a mistake and you could blame the coaches for it. But still, LSU got lucky and really shouldn't of won that game. In this case, your guys mistake just happened to be a little bit bigger then LSU's mistake. But your right, people need to be more patient. In fact, there is good evidence for people to be patient. Both Greg Schiano and Frank Beamer started their careers with losing records but have done a pretty good job lately (granted, this year is looking like a disaster for Schiano and a disappointment for Beamer but still...in general they've done well). So, if a coach shows talent, then stick with him. Of course, its easier to do that at a school with no history then at a school like WVU or Tennessee.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:50 am

I will get back and reply to that, but first. I have to post this!

Richt and Uga on a walk

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Postby Peanut » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:44 pm

So its probably because they are playing a not so great Kansas State team, but Nebraska is starting to look a lot like the old Nebraska...which is scary...
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Postby TWWK » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:01 pm

Peanut (post: 1429796) wrote:So its probably because they are playing a not so great Kansas State team, but Nebraska is starting to look a lot like the old Nebraska...which is scary...


Particularly for UT, who goes to Lincoln next week...it could get ugly.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:05 pm

Peanut wrote:So its probably because they are playing a not so great Kansas State team, but Nebraska is starting to look a lot like the old Nebraska...which is scary...


I like it, they have gone from the wishbone to spread option and they look like the old Neb teams that ran the wishbone.

Big 10, here comes Nebraska!


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Postby Peanut » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:41 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1429802) wrote:I like it, they have gone from the wishbone to spread option and they look like the old Neb teams that ran the wishbone.

Big 10, here comes Nebraska!


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Yeah, if Nebraska is even remotely as good as they were in the 90s...the Big Ten will no longer be Ohio State's playhouse. As for Texas...well...good luck.
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Postby Peanut » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:06 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1428712) wrote:I am, but I still think Alabama is one of the two best teams in the country.



I remembered this when I saw that you were the only person who picked Alabama to loose. I would say that you still don't believe this but that would ignore the fact that the SEC is a difficult conference and you can loose a game and still be one of the two best teams in the country...though not the best team in the country. Looks like that title belongs to Oregon now.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:20 pm

I also think about why fans don't give a coach time is two things. One that I talk about as the high pay that coaches get. I think with that pay, the fans think that they should be able to wave a magic wand and make the team a powerhouse over night. Also, when they coach is not winning titles, the fans have this, what have you showed us lately and the rewards that we should get from how much we have paid you. With money being at a high setting for coaches, fans get spoiled really fast.

The other is the times that we live in. We live in the digital age and can check news about our time just about every day. Everyday there is news about a player from high school going to a team or not. We have cell phones, text messaging, Facebook and Twitter to keep up with the team and the coaches.

Look at ESPN, you have college football live on every day of the week, other then Saturday and Sunday. Then you have the college football final on ESPN as well.

I remember when I was a kid and we got cable and had ESPN in the middle 80's that you have a few football games on TV and then you had the College score board show on ESPN around 12 am and it was just on for an hour. Now the College Football Final show is like an hour and 30 to two hours long.

Now look at how High School football is big now. ESPN carries a game each week on ESPN U of game from around the country.

Where I know that Georgia high school is big, but not as a big like Ca, TX and FL. I can remember before I started to going to HS football games starting in 1997, that they would only show AAAA title game on TV before that on TV. Now we have two channels that has a Georgia HS football game every week. GPB host a live feed to a game each week and watch it on the computer. All of the state title games are played at the Georgia Dome and before that, it was the semi final games that were played at the Dome and they didn't start putting on tv until 1996 and it was just 2008 that they move the state title games to the Dome. Now you can watch about four playoff games each week and then see all the state title games on GPB now.

College and High school football has got so big now. Which is good but there are bad as put pressure on kids and the coaches to do well more then ever.

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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:36 pm

#1 OSU 18 and #18 Wis 31

Kentucky 31 and #10 South Carolina 28

TCU 31 and BYU 3

Miss St 10 and Fla 7


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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Postby Peanut » Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:00 pm

Haha indeed! And now...Oregon will be number 1...
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:58 pm

ORST 21 and Wash 21

Hawaii 17 and Nev 0 and close to the end of the half.


I'm watching both games, but been watching the Hawaii game more and they are fired up and ready to play in this game.


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Postby TWWK » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:19 pm

Hook 'em Horns! :P
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:06 pm

Hawaii beat #19 Nevada 27 to 20 :)

#23 Air Force lost to SDST 23 to 20 :waah!:


The first rantings of the BCS have been release tonight.


1 Oklahoma
2 Oregon
3 Boise State
4 Auburn
5 TCU
6 LSU
7 Michigan State
8 Alabama
9 Utah
10 Ohio State
11 Missouri
12 Stanford
13 Wisconsin
14 Oklahoma State
15 Iowa
16 Nebraska
17 Florida State
18 Arizona
19 Texas
20 West Virginia
21 South Carolina
22 Kansas State
23 Arkansas
24 Mississippi State
25 Virginia Tech


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Postby Peanut » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:48 pm

Wow, Oklahoma over Oregon? The computers must love the Sooners because to jump over both Boise and Oregon is kind of shocking. I mean, I could understand Boise because they aren't playing top, quality opponents every week, though I think it is fair to place them in second place after Ohio State lost, but Oregon has done nothing but put up video game like numbers. I can't see how you would push the Sooners over Oregon even though they might have the better team.

And, taking a quick look at the polls, I was right. The computers love Oklahoma and really don't like Oregon. Also targets of the computes love are LSU, Auburn, and Missouri.
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Postby TWWK » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Peanut (post: 1431681) wrote:Wow, Oklahoma over Oregon? The computers must love the Sooners because to jump over both Boise and Oregon is kind of shocking.


My guess is that it has to do with quality of opponents. In fact, Boise St. would've been on top if Oregon St. hadn't lost this week (and OU was helped by Texas' win and movement back into the top 25).
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:02 pm

I still can't believe that the dumb CPU's pick Oklahoma. Now I want them to get beat bad by someone.

And LSU, they are the luckiest football team in the county.


I can see Auburn in the top five and I hope they beat LSU this week.


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Postby Peanut » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:10 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1431685) wrote:I still can't believe that the dumb CPU's pick Oklahoma. Now I want them to get beat bad by someone.

And LSU, they are the luckiest football team in the county.


I can see Auburn in the top five and I hope they beat LSU this week.


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You know...I just don't know about this LSU-Auburn game. Because, I don't think Auburn has the type of team that can win a championship, especially in the SEC. But LSU's luck has to run out at some point and Auburn should be the team to do it. It's weird.

TWWK, for Boise at least it's the quality of opponents. Oregon's beaten good enough opponents that, though Oklahoma has a better schedule, I would think that they deserve to be number 1. Either way, it will be settled on the field so we'll see who actually ends up as the number 1 and 2 teams in the country by the end of the year.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:13 pm

Peanut wrote:You know...I just don't know about this LSU-Auburn game. Because, I don't think Auburn has the type of team that can win a championship, especially in the SEC. But LSU's luck has to run out at some point and Auburn should be the team to do it. It's weird.



Well, I really don't think Auburn can went a championship, but I think they should be rank better then LSU in this case. Auburn can score, but their D is a bit of a problem.


Also, Minnesota fires coach Tim Brewster.

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Postby Peanut » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:25 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1431713) wrote:Well, I really don't think Auburn can went a championship, but I think they should be rank better then LSU in this case. Auburn can score, but their D is a bit of a problem.


Also, Minnesota fires coach Tim Brewster.

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Yeah, I'd agree with you on that. Auburn has been more impressive then LSU.

I heard about the Minnesota coach getting fired. It doesn't really surprise me though.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:41 pm

I think the coach at UNM will be next to be fired. I can't remember his name right now.


Don't you find it funny that Georgia fans were calling for the head of Mark Richt. He cool the seat down with the Tennessee win and now look where Georgia is, right back in the title for SEC East.

I know that a lot of people thought, how could Georgia lose to Miss St, but maybe Miss St is a lot better then people think. Georgia lost their games close to teams that have been beating people that they shouldn't have.


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Postby battletech » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:46 am

I'm really impressed by FSU so far. Their offence has improved. I wounder if they can keep it going.
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Postby Peanut » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:44 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1431717) wrote:I think the coach at UNM will be next to be fired. I can't remember his name right now.


Don't you find it funny that Georgia fans were calling for the head of Mark Richt. He cool the seat down with the Tennessee win and now look where Georgia is, right back in the title for SEC East.

I know that a lot of people thought, how could Georgia lose to Miss St, but maybe Miss St is a lot better then people think. Georgia lost their games close to teams that have been beating people that they shouldn't have.


Is the UNM coach the former offensive coordinator for Illinois the year the went to the Rose Bowl? Even if it isn't...I'm glad WVU didn't hire him as their next coach.

Yeah, Miss St is much better then people think. Another team which is much better then people think is Kentucky. Honestly, I wasn't surprised that they knocked off South Carolina. They've played well and it was really only a matter of time before the beat somebody whose ranked. Georgia has been playing well and you can tell that the loss of AJ Green was the main reason they weren't winning early on.

battletech (post: 1431751) wrote:I'm really impressed by FSU so far. Their offence has improved. I wounder if they can keep it going.


Yeah, FSU has been good lately. Since their QB is healthy, I think it is safe to assume they will keep it going on offense. Remember, last year their offense got off to a good start only to plummet after he was injured. In general, it will be interesting to see who comes out of the ACC. While the ACC has endured a season similar to the Big East, unlike the Big East the ACC has several teams with a legitimate case to be called the best in the ACC.
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