Nintendo DS?

[Kireihana]

Just when I finally get a GameBoy Advance SP... Nintendo announces they're coming out with a new portable gaming system! Granted, the DS uses diferent platforms than the GameBoys (so it can't play GameBoy Games), but still! This happened to me right after I got a GameBoy Color, and then after the first GBA...

Anyway, the DS is supposed to have two screens on it (how is this thing portable, again?) and a lot of funky new features. Here's a link to an article: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/157413_nintendo21.html

Nintendo has said it is also working on successors to the GameBoy Advance and the GameCube, which competes with Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox and Sony's PlayStation 2.

[Vyse]

The DS isn't a replacement for GBA... Nintendo's made that very clear.

[Fsiphskilm]

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[Link Antilles]

The DS is an interesting story.... this system could easily go anyway... I just pray it's not a Vitrual Boy flop.

Interesting side note: I was reading an article about E3 at Gamespy, It seems to my surprise... that game devolopers are more excited about making games for the DS than PSP. Maybe it's something to look forward too, I dunno.

[skynes]

It seems to my surprise... that game devolopers are more excited about making games for the DS than PSP. Maybe it's something to look forward too, I dunno.

I'll give you a few reasons why that may be.

1. Given the NIGHTMARE that the PS1 and PS2 are to program for, the PSP will probably be the same. Mega powerful graphics, impossible to get anything to work on. Compared to them Nintendo software is a dream to use.

2.Nintendo gives the developer 20% of profit made on sold games. Sony gives 5%

[PXDN Gamer]

Im very intrested in seeing this in a couple of weeks at E3. Knowing my luck the nintendo booth will still be inclosed and too crowded to be able to get a good play time on one of these things ..better yet it be behind a screen showing tech demos.

[Kireihana]

The DS isn't a replacement for GBA... Nintendo's made that very clear.

Good, then at least they wont stop the production of GBA games. But I still want the DS, lol. I'll probably be ve-ry expensive.

Also I'm rooting for the GameCube 2.

I'm excited about it too, but still... I think I have to give up the race for new Nintendo products. Lol. I'm a bit interested in how the GC could be improved. Better graphics? I thought Super Mario Sunshine and SSBM were topnotch already... Maybe it will play dvds.

[skynes]

Maybe it will play dvds.

What is this obsession ppl have with consoles that play DVDs!? A games console plays GAMES, its NOT a DVD Console. I don't care if they play DVDs or not, in my opinion focusing on playing DVDs pulls resources away from working on the graphics and power of playing games!

[Kireihana]

I'm just saying it would be nice. Ever since my computer got moved from my room to downstairs, I've missed being able to watch dvds in my room... (I have a TV in my room, but its not hooked up to any channels. I only use it for playing video games XD) I mean, I do think games should be the main focus of a gaming console, of course. I'm just trying to imagine what kind of stuff they'd do to the GameCube 2...

[cbwing0]

Just when I finally get a GameBoy Advance SP... Nintendo announces they're coming out with a new portable gaming system! Granted, the DS uses diferent platforms than the GameBoys (so it can't play GameBoy Games), but still! This happened to me right after I got a GameBoy Color, and then after the first GBA...

Maybe Nintendo is evil, and you should buy a PS2 instead... j/k

I can't say that I want to see Nintendo fail on this one (as I don't wish failure upon anyone, especially when large amounts of time and money are involved), but I would like to see Sony dethrone Nintendo as king of the portable gaming market. That probably won't happen, but i would at least like to see some decent competition, so that Nintendo would no longer be able to muscle game companies (like capcom ) into making GC exclusives before they can make GBA games.

The ability to play DVD's is a good feature for any console. Thanks to my PS2, I didn't have to drag a separate DVD player to college. This is a positive feature, in my opinion. The ability to play DVD's does not "pulls resources away from working on the graphics and power of playing games," since many games are already in the DVD format. For this reason, DVD movie capabilities are a natural extension of the console.

In conclusion, I am a Sony fan, and I want to see Sony come out on top in the console and portable gaming markets. Half of that goal is realized with the PS2. All that is needed now is strong support for the PSP from fans and developers.

[Vyse]

The ability to play DVD's is a good feature for any console. Thanks to my PS2, I didn't have to drag a separate DVD player to college. This is a positive feature, in my opinion. The ability to play DVD's does not "pulls resources away from working on the graphics and power of playing games," since many games are already in the DVD format. For this reason, DVD movie capabilities are a natural extension of the console.

Exactly, modern game systems already have the ability to play FMVs, all that is added is controls to play DVD movies and maybe a codec, thats not really anything major.

[Zilch]

What is this obsession ppl have with consoles that play DVDs!? A games console plays GAMES, its NOT a DVD Console. I don't care if they play DVDs or not, in my opinion focusing on playing DVDs pulls resources away from working on the graphics and power of playing games!

(gives Skynes about 50-some-odd-cookies)

Finally! This is what I love about the Gamecube. It's a pure gaming system without all the bells and whistles. HARDCORE GAMERS, UNITE!

[Vyse]

(gives Skynes about 50-some-odd-cookies)

Finally! This is what I love about the Gamecube. It's a pure gaming system without all the bells and whistles. HARDCORE GAMERS, UNITE!

You love the Game Cube just because of its lack of features?

Don't get me wrong, I love the Game Cube too, but because of its games, not what features it has or doesn't have, just like I love PS2, because of the games on it.

[Azier the Swordsman]

If you want to play DVD's, buy a DVD player! You can get one dirt cheap off of eBay if you want to.

I'm not so sure I'm going to want to buy a Nintendo DS. Depends on what games it has. It seems too gimicky to me. It will have to have at least: A Mario/Sonic/Metroid/Zelda game in order to peak my interest.

[Kireihana]

But why buy a dvd player when you can get one incorperated into your gaming system? I love my GameCube too, but I don't think being able to play dvds would make it worse. Quite the contrary, imho. The only downside to extra features is that the system costs more.

But not to debate, about the DS... what do they mean by an "overview map?" Personally, I find it difficult to focus on two things at once, so I don't think the double screens will do much for me.

[skynes]

Do you all not see what's happening? Internet connections, keyboards, webcams (eye toy), DVD players, Hard Drives. The console industry is turning into the PC industry. Consoles are getting more and more like PCs! why do you think Microsoft is stepping in? MS are PC oriented not Console oriented. Consoles are becoming more like PCs every day.

Wait 10yrs. Ill bet we'll all have to go out buying new processors and RAM for our consoles.

I want my console to be a console. Not a console trying to be a PC. If I want PC hardware- DVDs, internet etc. Ill buy a PC! I DONT need to be handing out extra money to pump up my console to PC status. I want my consoles for GAMES and GAMES alone! No webpage viewing or webcams or keyboards or chatting just GAMES!

[cbwing0]

I want my console to be a console. Not a console trying to be a PC. If I want PC hardware- DVDs, internet etc. Ill buy a PC! I DONT need to be handing out extra money to pump up my console to PC status. I want my consoles for GAMES and GAMES alone! No webpage viewing or webcams or keyboards or chatting just GAMES!

The fact of the matter is that, as games become more advanced in terms of graphics, size, AI, etc., consoles will have to become increasingly more powerful. The best way to do this is to make them more like PCs. That way the hardware is already known, and can be expoited to its full potential.

Aside from that, I believe your comment is a bit confused. Game consoles have always resembled PCs in many ways. They have processors (even the Gamecube! ), RAM, and any number other components that you would find in a PC (although usually with less power).

If you don't want game systems to be able to play DVDs, connect to the internet, or store saves on a hard drive, then what medium would you propose to replaced them? Cartridges? The last time that was tried *cough* N64 *cough* they cost $80 each. The cost would certainly be greater today in order to keep up with game technology. I for one do not wish to pay that much for a single game.

Like it or not, consoles are evolving. They are becoming complete entertainment centers; and, contrary to what you think, this is actually beneficial to games. If a console has internet connectivity, you can download new levels, mods, weapons, and missions (for starters) for all of you favorite games, increasing their replay value. You can also download trailers, strategy guides, and any number of other things to enhance your game playing experience. Also, as game consoles gain increased functionality, more people will buy them. If more people buy consoles, the market for games is larger, meaning more games are produced. People will also know that there is money to be made in console games, so bright young individuals will have the motivation to program the next generations of great console games. How is this not a good thing?

Sony and Microsoft understand how the console market is evolving. If Nintendo doesn't, they will eventually end up like Sega, or not exist at all.

[Vyse]

And to think, Nintendo and Sony could be number one right now if Nintendo hadn't gotten greedy back when they were making the CD Add on =/

And btw, for those complaning about systems having DVDs, DVDs hold MORE information then GCN's mini-discs, MORE information means LONGER games and MORE content.

[shooraijin]

However, that doesn't necessarily mean *better* games (issuing no opinion over which system does in fact have the better games, since I have minimal experience with either one).

[Vyse]

However, that doesn't necessarily mean *better* games (issuing no opinion over which system does in fact have the better games, since I have minimal experience with either one).

Of course, but it does give the potential for that.

[Fsiphskilm]

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[Vyse]

Actually it was Sony that cuased the split. Sony worded the contract so that it would benifit them and give them more rights, Sony was being greedy.

I thought it was Nintendo being greedy over licencing controls? Oh well.

[cbwing0]

Either way, I'm glad that Sony chose to separate themselves from Nintendo and launch their own console. Millions of people became acquainted with console gaming through the PS1, far more than the N64, Saturn, or Dreamcast. If all we had from Sony was an SNES CD peripheral, console gaming would probably be in a pretty sorry state today.

[Vyse]

Either way, I'm glad that Sony chose to separate themselves from Nintendo and launch their own console. Millions of people became acquainted with console gaming through the PS1, far more than the N64, Saturn, or Dreamcast. If all we had from Sony was an SNES CD peripheral, console gaming would probably be in a pretty sorry state today.

I disagree, I think the SNES CD add-on would've just been the starting point for further Sony/Nintendo colaboration that I belive would've continued though today.

[Fsiphskilm]

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