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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:48 am

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Dude, I LAUGH at those Knights. Those retards... wasting their skill points.

Edit: If you are going blade. Invest in your axe techniques too! As Axes are pretty much the weapon of choice after level 75. I'm level 60 with two G.Swords +7s, and I think this will be the last time I use swords. Once I hit 75, I am going to try to invest in two Historic Axes.

As for Knights, I'm not sure. If I recall, people say using a sword as a higher-leveled Knight is the way to go. It really depends if you AoE or not.

AoE Knight: 2-Handed Axe
1 on 1 Knight: 2-Handed Sword

But I'm not sure. Minamo can correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh and a friend of mine says he's going to stop playing, so I may end up acquiring his Knight and Acrobat! If so, depending on the Knight's stats, I may restat him XD
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Postby Felix » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:47 am

Dude, that would suck to use someone else's character. I would just have him sell all his stuff and give the money to me.

Oh... no offensive skills, huh? It's a little late for that... but I still have my reskill, so I'll use it if I run into trouble. Thanks for the tips.

One more question, what's the name of the rare level 15 sword? I have a Claw of Lawolf+3 but I would rather use the sword, I just can't find it.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:54 am

Mah, if you're poor, don't bother with the level 15 set. You level to 30 pretty quickly anyway.

Yes, use the reskill/restat atlevel 60.
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:43 am

Felix wrote:One more question, what's the name of the rare level 15 sword? I have a Claw of Lawolf+3 but I would rather use the sword, I just can't find it.QUOTE]
LOL! Shining Swords are like, 20mil. No joke. You've got a Claw of Lawolf, and that's about half as valuable, so I'd consider yourself lucky. Of course if you don't want it, give it to me!

Mr. Smartypants wrote:Dude, I LAUGH at those Knights. Those retards... wasting their skill points.

Edit: If you are going blade. Invest in your axe techniques too! As Axes are pretty much the weapon of choice after level 75. I'm level 60 with two G.Swords +7s, and I think this will be the last time I use swords. Once I hit 75, I am going to try to invest in two Historic Axes.

As for Knights, I'm not sure. If I recall, people say using a sword as a higher-leveled Knight is the way to go. It really depends if you AoE or not.

AoE Knight: 2-Handed Axe
1 on 1 Knight: 2-Handed Sword

But I'm not sure. Minamo can correct me if I'm wrong.

I laugh at teh Keenwheel Knights too, but it's really what they have to do. The knights who spam Keenwheel use it as their tool for 1v1 fighting because they're AoE.

In terms of 1v1 built knights, it's all a matter of opinion. My choices are bolded.

60
Guardian Big Sword: (305-308), HP+200, Def+30
Guardian Ambidextrous Axe: (300-304), Dex+5, Def+30

75
Historic Big Sword: (321-324), A. Speed+10%, Hit Rate+15%
Historic Ambidextrous Axe: (325-334), A. Speed+10%, Hit Rate+20%

90
Angels Big Sword: (380-382), Dex+10, Critical hit damage+35%
Angels Ambidextrous Axe: (387-395), Str+10, Crit Rate+15%

105
Legendary Golden Big Sword: (392-394), Str+2, A. Speed+18%
Legendary Big Golden Axe: (400-409), HP+18%, Str+6

As you can see, I picked the axe every time. I feel that the bonuses on the axes are better than those of the swords for a dex build. And I'll defend my choices.

G.A. Axe: Really, this is more of a tossup. I chose this because the dex is more useful than the HP, IMO.

H.A. Axe: Higher damage and more hit rate, obvious choice.

A.A. Axe: Even with a bonus 10 dex, you won't crit enough to get much use out of the additional Crit damage, so therefore teh better attack power on teh axe and improved crit rate outweigh the additional dex and crit damage.

L.G.B. Axe: Simply put, by this time, with haste and GT, you should be able to achieve 100% attack speed WITHOUT the bonus, hence making the LGBA better. To be perfectly honest, though, I'd keep the A.A. Axe.

Also, yeah, AoE knights BETTER use axes, or they suck. Earth Divider (Sword) IS stronger than Power Stump (Axe), but Power Stump comes with a bonus ability to stun the monsters you're fighting, thus making it a better choice for AoE.

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:21 am

Hmm, yes you are right. The reason why I said Swords was because it was based off a post on the Flyff boards prior to the 60+ Greens update.

Swords are good in the beginning when your speed isn't capped yet (In terms of Blades) but once you reach the speed cap as a blade, move on to axes folks.

For me, that's going to be level 75, seeing as I already invested in 2 guardian swords (Which I do like, they each give +5 to Stamina and Dexterity, a very nice bonus).

As for the 60 Knight's, I think the sword is the way to go for that, unless the extra 5 to dex does that much. Likewise 200 to HP doesn't do much either, considering that you probably have well over 4-5 thousand.
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:29 am

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:As for the 60 Knight's, I think the sword is the way to go for that, unless the extra 5 to dex does that much. Likewise 200 to HP doesn't do much either, considering that you probably have well over 4-5 thousand.

Actually, for a 1v1 build, you're looking more like 2-3k HP.

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:32 am

everdred12a wrote:Actually, for a 1v1 build, you're looking more like 2-3k HP.

Well yeah, seeing as there's more emphasis on STR. I was referring to an AoE build.

I honestly don't know which route I would go if I acquired my friend's Knight...

Probably AoE. I mean, my Blade is Solo, my Psykeeper is going to be solo (Planning to invest in Satanololgy), I figure I should get an AoE build somewhere.

Depending what he put the stat points on though. We'll see.
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:39 am

AoE isnt' bad, just don't be like RisVyers >.>

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:49 am

everdred12a wrote:AoE isnt' bad, just don't be like RisVyers >.>

Well yeah, duh XD I mean they aren't like Rangers or Elementors, but nonetheless, good AoErs.

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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:09 pm

I think knights are better AoEers than Rangers and Elementors, I just know that RisVyers has a sucky build. Full Sta FTL.

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Postby Felix » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:34 pm

I didn't ask if I should use the level 15 stuff, MSP, I just asked what the name of the sword is xP If you don't know then just say so.

All the rest of you guys' conversation is way over my head.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:16 pm

So I guess Stamina and Strength is the way to go? (Aoe having more stamina than strength, I'm assuming).
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:21 pm

Felix wrote:I didn't ask if I should use the level 15 stuff, MSP, I just asked what the name of the sword is xP If you don't know then just say so.

All the rest of you guys' conversation is way over my head.

I told you, the Shining Sword is the level 15 green, and it's not worth trying to buy. It costs like, 20mil. You've got a Claw of Lawolf, I'd be happy. I wish I had one >.>

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:34 pm

everdred12a wrote:I told you, the Shining Sword is the level 15 green, and it's not worth trying to buy. It costs like, 20mil. You've got a Claw of Lawolf, I'd be happy. I wish I had one >.>

=p yeah but your coding sucked, so it was hard to see what you wrote. You killed your quote tags.
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:51 pm

LOL! So I did. Epic fail.

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Postby Felix » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:05 pm

Next time it'd probably be a good idea to figure out how to make a guild before killing someone's party =P But I forgive you I s'pose. What are you gonna name the guild?
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:31 pm

Felix wrote:Next time it'd probably be a good idea to figure out how to make a guild before killing someone's party =P But I forgive you I s'pose. What are you gonna name the guild?

Possibly TheNoahs or something. XD
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:52 pm

Bad news Felix...

that scroll you get at level 15 isn't a reskill/restat. It's just a reskill..


You're only level 21, and It's possible to have a Knight with some Dex. Or you can just go Blade I suppose.
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Postby Felix » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:51 am

Yeah, I noticed that a while ago. Oh well... I may end up going blade if that's the case, or just be a dex night, or just buy a restat if i'm rich at that point.

How'd the guildmaking go?
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:23 am

xD Utter fail. I think there was something wrong with one of the characters.

We're gonna try today or tomorrow.
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Postby Felix » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:06 am

Sounds good. Do you still have the party or will you have to make a new one?
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Postby everdred12a » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:25 am

You guys know the new guild requirements, right? You just pay 3mil and have a party of 3 people. That's all.

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Postby Felix » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:39 am

It doesn't need to be an advance party?

Huh... it was better when it was hard to make a guild.
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Postby Slater » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:21 pm

also, each person is only allowed to make one guild per character. This is to prevent CW farming.

(as if level 20 guild wasn't hard enough)
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Postby everdred12a » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:58 pm

Slater wrote:also, each person is only allowed to make one guild per character. This is to prevent CW farming.

(as if level 20 guild wasn't hard enough)

That's not true. We've used the same character to make every guild we've used so far to fight CW... >.>

Just wanted to add (because it makes me happy :D ) that this topic has the highest post count of anything on the first page of GG by a good 100 posts. That's pretty awesome, IMO.

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:09 pm

everdred12a wrote:That's not true. We've used the same character to make every guild we've used so far to fight CW... >.>

Just wanted to add (because it makes me happy :D ) that this topic has the highest post count of anything on the first page of GG by a good 100 posts. That's pretty awesome, IMO.

XD yes I know! I was excited when we broke 1000 XD

I was reading some of the earlier posts before. MAN We were such noobs XD Ahhh those were the days.
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Postby Felix » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:04 pm

Whaddaya mean? I'm still a noob =]

I got my level 30 sword for Klouse ^^/ Can't wait to use it!

I also finally sold that wedge suit, and now I feel so rich o.o
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Postby Slater » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:03 pm

everdred12a wrote:We've used the same character to make every guild we've used so far to fight CW... >.>


Exactly, used to :3

It changed in V7; they made it so you could only take the guild quest once per character.
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Postby Felix » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:52 pm

Well then there's your problem right there, MSP. =P

Stinks that Aibatt is down from a hardware error. Hopefully it will be back up soon. At least I still have my Mushpoie character to use in the meantime.
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Postby everdred12a » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:05 pm

[quote="Slater"]Exactly, used to :3

It changed in V7]
The last CW we did was Tuesday, March 6th.

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