The Doctor wrote:Watsuki seems to be the most popular so far since practically everyone has mentioned him.
jon_jinn wrote:i'm actually an "antifan" of Watsuki.
Tom Dincht wrote:If I was an antifan, it would be because of Kenshin's "starting" hair! XD
Radical Dreamer wrote:Any particular reason why, other than the fact that his first series was majorly popular? I mean, he's a great artist, and he did a fine job of creating a smooth and interesting storyline. Sure, Ruroken's not philosophical or serious like Urasawa's works and it doesn't take a whole lot of mental capacity to understand, but it's a fun series, nonetheless. I read manga for entertainment, and Watsuki did a fine job of keeping me entertained while reading that series. So is there any particular reason why you're an "antifan"?
the main heroine (kaoru) is simply a liability. she always needs to be saved or gets in the way of fights. Her entire appearance in the manga is seriously quite meaningless. she's also annoying because she’s always getting into fights with that little boy (forgot his name), and displays a pretty pitiable form of maturity in doing so. her only role in the manga is to help the author provide readers with a pathetically vague romance between her and kenshin that further ruins the series.
it doesn't sound all that bad to me, but i just don't like the story. it bores me in a way. it might be the author's attempt to mix historical facts into the manga that annoyed me. some of the battles are pretty pointless two. It’s like two hits and the enemy goes down.
Finally, kenshin has inhuman endurance and can live after being cut like a thousand times. He never goes down or even gets knocked out. He always comes back and it totally destroys the realism of the manga. In my opinion, kenshin’s inhuman endurance is almost as insanely impossible as Ichigo’s (Bleach).
jon_jinn wrote:some of the battles are pretty pointless two. It’s like two hits and the enemy goes down. Like, the author sets it all up so the enemy’s some strong guy famous for killing a certain amount of people, or doing something great, and then, this same guy that’s so well-known gets his butt whooped by kenshin or some other guy in like two seconds.
MasterDias wrote:But, jon-jinn...
Most of your peeves against Rurouni Kenshin are found in other shonen manga as well and are hardly unique to the series.
Kaoru is far from my favorite character in the series but...
This is far from the only shonen series that ever used a girl in a "damsel in distress" role let alone a romantic interest. You are a Togashi fan right. I really don't see how YYH's Keiko Yukimura differs in purpose from Kaoru Kamiya unless there is something in YYH's final several arcs that I don't know about.
And unlike Keiko, Kaoru does have fighting ability, although Watsuki never really lets her show it, outside of one fight halfway through the series.
Again, that's not unique to Kenshin. Sure, the battles aren't as dragged out as Dragonball, or even Naruto. But I thought they were reasonably well done. And again, in YYH, Hiei takes out some of the Dark Tournament opponents with only one hit.
But shonen heroes are almost always ridiculously durable/powerful. Luffy, Goku, Ichigo, Naruto, etc. etc...
Just because this is set in 1890s Japan doesn't mean that it isn't a Shonen Jump manga.
jon_jinn wrote:i'm not complaining so much about the fast battles as i am about the time the author spends describing how great that charater is. and then, this great character gets beat in like two seconds. so the time spent describing this characters successes are basically wasted...
jon_jinn wrote:i'm not complaining so much about the fast battles as i am about the time the author spends describing how great that charater is. and then, this great character gets beat in like two seconds. so the time spent describing this characters successes are basically wasted...
Radical Dreamer wrote:Out of curiosity, which characters are you referring to? I'm pretty sure I know of at least one you're thinking of (Raijuuta), but after that. . .yeah, pretty much everyone else that's "built up" doesn't really go down without a fight. Just curious. XD
jon_jinn wrote:okay. how about if i told you that i'm NOT that big of a yu yu hakusho fan. sure the manga's pretty good, but i mentioned togashi more because of his work, Hunter x Hunter. that takes care of the pointless heroine issue, as well the fast battles issue (as the only fast battles in HxH are the ones that put a major character against a relatively minor character, and it is extremely obvious that there's a major power difference).
yeah. well, some of the enemies in the shishio arc like
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that one big guy who ends up getting beaten by kenshin's master. or, that guy who flies, who gets beaten by the little boy. that person who fights against kaoru, and even that boy who's always smiling and has no feelings (the guy who's basically shishio's right-hand man). i know, he put up a pretty nice fight but kenshin just uses that super move that he learns from his teacher, and bam. it's over. same with that ninja leader from volume 4 who ends up fighting kenshin again. kenshin and him are fighting and finally, kenshin just uses his super move and bam. it's over.[/spoiler]
i know, some of these guys weren't really "built up" but still.
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