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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:38 am

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:Yes, denying that your a Christian isn't exactly kosher.


Well, they didn't exactly do that either, but they did handle the situation in such a way as to imply in a great many minds that they had no faith, which is quite a massive thing to do to evade criticisms from the Christian community about using swear words.
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Postby Stephen » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:18 pm

Good news for the Ev fans here.

Hits Daily Double.com wrote: EVANESCENCE OPENS UP
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Wind-up’s #1 Debut Could Hit 400k, The Killers, George Strait, Beck, Monica and Jet Also Headed for Bows

October 4, 2006

There’s nothing evanescent about Evanescence.
Amy Lee’s reconstituted goth band is targeted for the #1 spot on next week’s chart with Wind-up’s The Open Door headed for anywhere between 375-400k, based on first-day sales figures from all retailers still taking our calls. That’ll be good enough to top Island Vegas rockers The Killers’ Sam’s Town, which appears bound for a #2 debut, with upwards of 320k.

MCA Nashville’s George Strait is right behind those two with an estimated 260-280k for his latest, It Just Comes Natural. He can say that again. Interscope’s Beck comes with The Information, which looks headed for 100k, as does J diva Monica’s The Makings of Me.

Elektra’s Jet (50-60k), RCA Nashville’s Chris Young (40-50k) and Verity gospel great Fred Hammond (30-35k) are also assured of Top 50 debuts. Also on tap: Concord's Ray Charles/Count Basie posthumous collaboration (30k), Virgin's Sleepy Brown (25k) and Interscope blue-eyed soul man Robin Thicke (15-20k).

Next week, J Records' Rod Stewart, Sony BMG Nashville's Jimmy Buffett, G Unit/ Interscope's Lloyd Banks, Rowdy/Universal Motown's Sammie, a Christmas album from SBMG Nashville's Brad Paisley and a Deutsche Grammophon album featuring Sting with strings hit retail shelves.

Overall, the market was up 3% vs. last week, down 4% vs. same week last year and now down a little over 5% to date.


Decent opening for the band.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:23 pm

Good stuff! That's great! I heard samples of their cd on Amazon but while samples are good for a taste, its very hard to determine whether a song is good or bad from a 30 second snippet. From what I've heard it sounds different to their other stuff, but still very good. I think it will take some time getting used to, but it'll probably be a keeper.
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Postby Stephen » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:51 pm

The CD has been in my truck, computer, and bedroom since I got it. I love it more everytime I hear it. I think it has shades of the vocal sound of Origin...and I adore the new guitars. One thing I read off the Ev boards that I thought was cool....(skip this part if you don't like secular music)

I guess on the Rock Am fest event in Europe, Evanescence was suposed to go on before Korn. When Amy Lee found out about this, she refused to go on before Korn and gave Korn the spot, then they played. Showing respect for Korn. You rarely see respect like this in music anymore. And I thought it was pretty cool. (In other news, John of Korn loved Amy Lee's verson of Thoughtless from Ev's Anywhere but home project)
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:05 am

That's awesome! She does seem to have more dignity, honesty and respect than the majority of musicians out there (Christian ones included).
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Postby Rachel » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:41 pm

Dude, I totally stayed at Hastings until about thirty after midnight. I really really like it. I like it much better than Fallen, which was a great record don't get me wrong I love that one too, but The Open Door is much much better. I haven't heard Origin so I can't say anything about that one. But uh yeah. So far my two favorite tracks on it are Sweet Sacrifice and Lithium. How about you guys?
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:53 pm

Amy Lee and Ben Moody were annoyed that their first mainstream release was being sold for big bucks on eBay etc to fans, so they allowed Origin to be downloaded legally here:

http://www.fieldsofinnocence.com/

(You have to be a member to download, but I think you only need to enter your name and a password)

Enjoy!
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Postby Scarecrow » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:16 pm

Rachel wrote:So far my two favorite tracks on it are Sweet Sacrifice and Lithium. How about you guys?


My favorites atm are Lithium (deffenately been playing this one the most) and Snow White Queen.

This album is deffenately growing on me. I mean I liked it alot at first but it was still "different" and all but now I can't stop playing it :P Call Me When You're Sober still my least favorite... don't know why they picked that one for the single honestly, there are so many better ones on there.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:23 pm

Scarecrow wrote:Snow White Queen.


Heh, they included the track they were liscensed for Chronicles of Narnia : The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe after all, eh? One of these days I should pick up music by Narnia and make a custom playlist with Aslan Faction, Narnia, and stuff like that.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:26 am

I had a hunch Snow White Queen was the one that was going to be in the LWW movie, but was too dark for it.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:29 am

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:I had a hunch Snow White Queen was the one that was going to be in the LWW movie, but was too dark for it.
Yep, that's exactly what happened.
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Postby Zarn Ishtare » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:15 am

I gotta be honest, this album really doesn't excite me. Yes, Amy has the stellar voice, same as ever, but after getting a better taste of the genre of music she plays, I gotta say, there is most assuredly better out there.


Then again, ever since Jamie (Kkun) turned me onto indie rock, I've not been able to wrap my head round much else, so......meh.
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Postby beau99 » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:08 am

GhostontheNet wrote:Heh, they included the track they were liscensed for Chronicles of Narnia : The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe after all, eh? One of these days I should pick up music by Narnia and make a custom playlist with Aslan Faction, Narnia, and stuff like that.

The song she wrote for Narnia isn't on the album in full. However, part of it is used as the intro for "Good Enough".

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:Amy Lee and Ben Moody were annoyed that their first mainstream release was being sold for big bucks on eBay etc to fans, so they allowed Origin to be downloaded legally here:

http://www.fieldsofinnocence.com/

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Enjoy!

A couple things.

First, Origin was just a demo disc, and Amy doesn't consider it an actual album as a result.

Second, you can download it (and their older stuff) anywhere. That website was made by fans.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:41 am

Zarn Ishtare wrote:I gotta be honest, this album really doesn't excite me. Yes, Amy has the stellar voice, same as ever, but after getting a better taste of the genre of music she plays, I gotta say, there is most assuredly better out there.


Then again, ever since Jamie (Kkun) turned me onto indie rock, I've not been able to wrap my head round much else, so......meh.


On that note, I should introduce you guys to an Electro-goth group called Collide at http://www.collide.net where you can download some tracks for free. I strongly suspect a lot of you Evanescence fans here will really like their music. I'd play 'em at Seraphim, but I just haven't got around to buying any CDs.

As to the Indie music and your project, I should warn you that the prepatory phase for my station was a very long one (maybe a year and a half of collection before I had a clue where it was all going). Still, I'm willing to tell you everything I know and help you out if you're going to go ahead.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:45 am

beau99 wrote:The song she wrote for Narnia isn't on the album in full. However, part of it is used as the intro for "Good Enough".


Bummer, I was hoping for the whole thing - I guess Disney holds the license to even the stuff they didn't use though.
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Postby beau99 » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:55 pm

GhostontheNet wrote:Bummer, I was hoping for the whole thing - I guess Disney holds the license to even the stuff they didn't use though.

Nope, it was unused, so Amy has full rights.

It just didn't make the final cut.
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Postby Stephen » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:21 pm

Snow White Queen is actually about creepy fans I belive. (Think Enenems Stan song)
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Postby beau99 » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:05 pm

Ark wrote:Snow White Queen is actually about creepy fans I belive. (Think Enenems Stan song)

Correct.

Amy uses the internet when she can, and has come across people with screen names such as "Amy Lee is my goddess". She doesn't like that.
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Postby A Cup of No » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:04 pm

She doesn't like that? How strange. ;-)
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:59 pm

I think it's sensible of her, she is a sensible woman.

Anyway, I finally scrounged the money together to buy Open Door. I've only listened to it once through so far but I notice so of the songs are great and some are fairly ho hum. But I'm going to give it another whirl. I'm sure it's one of those albums that just takes time to get used to and enjoy all that more (example: I hate Origin when I download it legally, but now I play it almost all the time).

And before I forget, I'm having trouble finding the Amy Lee Interview on the cd. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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Postby Scarecrow » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:29 pm

She has an interview on the CD? I didnt know that.. I'll have to check that out...
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Postby beau99 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:55 pm

Scarecrow wrote:She has an interview on the CD? I didnt know that.. I'll have to check that out...

Those who pre-ordered the album from iTunes got it.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:50 pm

That's a bit unfair for us who bought the physical cd.
Bummer.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:10 pm

I just picked up the cd today. i liked it more than i figured i would. Amy Lee backs up me saying that she has the best vocals in most of rock.
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Postby Hittokiri04 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:33 am

I love Evanescence...but in regards to that I was a little disapointed with the album myself. The music is very good although I do preferr the their first. The most of the songs were about boyfreind troubles that just bored me. I mean the things that were expressed by her I sure were traumatic for her but I just wanted to hear more than just that...
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Postby Hittokiri04 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:34 am

GrubbTheFragger wrote:I just picked up the cd today. i liked it more than i figured i would. Amy Lee backs up me saying that she has the best vocals in most of rock.


Actually I preferr the lead singer of Nightwish she has an amazing voice.
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Postby Stephen » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:53 am

Use the post edit feature rather then double posting.
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Postby Hittokiri04 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:59 am

Oh sorry for double posting. :red:
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Postby Maledicte » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:02 pm

Can't believe I haven't posted in this thread yet.

I like The Open Door about as equally as Origin.

Why I like The Open Door:

-More piano
-More complicated melodies (showing off Amy's talent to the nth degree)
-Orchestral elements very well integrated with the song/band
-The experimental sound in some of the tracks
-Amy's vocals are as strong as ever
-Mozart.

Favorite songs: Sweet Sacrifice (could have been longer though!) Call Me When You're Sober, Lacrymosa, The Only One

Why I like Origin

-stripped down sounds awesome
-additional male vocals
-good lyrics
-very fresh-sounding and unscripted
-an INSTRUMENTAL, wow
-I like the electronic/industrial sound as well.

Favorite songs: Imaginary, Even in Death, Lies, Away from Me

I don't like Fallen anymore. Sure, it got me into Evanescence, but my love for it died when I a) listened it to death and b) heard Origin. In comparison, Fallen sounds very sterile musically and very stale lyrically/emotionally. A lot of potentially good guitarwork was drowned out by orchestra rather than enhanced by it a la The Open Door. The drumming sounded very basic too. The best songs really are the two piano songs. Also, "Whisper" makes a better opening than closing.
Origin and The Open Door are good examples of cohesive albums, while Fallen seems more like a collection of songs strung together. Probably because Ben Moody was more commercial-minded anyway (apparently he's done work for Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson [I think], that ought to explain it.)
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Postby beau99 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:59 pm

GrubbTheFragger wrote:I just picked up the cd today. i liked it more than i figured i would. Amy Lee backs up me saying that she has the best vocals in most of rock.

I love Amy's vocals on CD, but she's horrible live. That bad performance on Anywhere But Home sadly wasn't a fluke.

Cristina Scabbia of Lacuna Coil is better.

Hittokiri04 wrote:Actually I preferr the lead singer of Nightwish she has an amazing voice.

I hate to disappoint you, but Nightwish kicked her out of the band.
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