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Characters you hated to see die (spoilers aplenty!)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:37 am
by rocklobster
Death is pretty common in anime. Sometimes it seems they can really make us hate to see characters die. So, which characters did you hate to see die?
For me it would be:
Naruto Shippuden
[spoiler]
Azuma in Naruto Shippuden[/spoiler]
Naruto
[spoiler]The Third Hokage in Naruto[/spoiler]
Death Note
[spoiler]L in Death Note[/spoiler]
Grave of the Fireflies
[spoiler]Both protaganists in Grave of the Fireflies[/spoiler]
Trigun
[spoiler]Wolfwood in Trigun[/spoiler]
Haibane Renmei
[spoiler]Kuu in Haibane Renmei[/spoiler]
Cowboy Bebop
[spoiler]Spike in Cowboy Bebop[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:29 am
by Maokun
Maybe it will be good if you separated the spoilers by series. I just was horribly spoiled in one of the series I'm watching. I'd be more upset if I didn't see it coming, but still a small part of me was holding up hopes for him.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:05 am
by LadyRushia
Good idea Maokun.
From Code Geass
[SPOILER]Euphemia. That whole situation was just horrible, although I don't remember if she stayed dead or not. Also, the part where Shirley's father died was sad.[/SPOILER]
From Sailor Moon
[SPOILER]Okay, I know everyone comes back to life all the time in Sailor Moon, but when everyone died near the end of Stars, it was really sad, especially Rei[/SPOILER]
From Cowboy Bebop
[SPOILER]Spiiiiiikkkkkkeeeee D: That scene was so good but so sad! I was also sad when Ed and Ein just left[/SPOILER]
From Negima
[SPOILER]Asuna. Yeah, she came back to life and all that, but it was still sad![/SPOILER]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:43 pm
by wildpurplechild
Naruto:[SPOILER] Deidara, Asuma, and Kimimaro (such awesome powers)[/SPOILER]
FMA: [SPOILER]Hughs, and the little girl/dog chimera[/SPOILER]
Fruits Basket?: [SPOILER]It's really sad that Tohru's mom died, but that happened at the beginning.[/SPOILER]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:02 pm
by KhakiBlueSocks
[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]Along with the ones listed before me:
"Death Note: The Last Name" (Live Action Movie)
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[Spoiler]I think L's death in the LAM is more touching and sad than the one in the anime. Especially when the scene cuts and we see the picture of Watari next to him. [/spoiler]
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"Air: The Motion Picture"[/color][/SIZE][/font]
[spoiler]Mitsuki's death was very excruciating to watch. When she's trying so hard to run along the beach on her own nearly brought me to tears. [/spoiler]
[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]"Mahou Sensei Negima!"[/color][/SIZE][/font]
[spoiler]That scene was very hard to watch...not so much the fact that Asuna died (after all, she came back) but watching everyone, especially Negi break down in the following episode was really hard to watch. It would be almost impossible to watch if we could actually hear all the crying. [/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:13 pm
by airichan623
naruto:
[SPOILER] itachi and gaara (for like 3 chapters in shippuden)[/SPOILER]
tsubasa:
[SPOILER] sakura (her soul went into 'dreams' but still)[/SPOILER]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:54 pm
by Roy Mustang
None.
If anime had no deaths, then it would just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.
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[color="Red"]Col. Roy Mustang[/color][/font]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:08 pm
by LadyRushia
KhakiBlueSocks wrote:[spoiler]That scene was very hard to watch...not so much the fact that Asuna died (after all, she came back) but watching everyone, especially Negi break down in the following episode was really hard to watch. It would be almost impossible to watch if we could actually hear all the crying.[/spoiler]
Yeah, that was the saddest part, seeing how everyone else reacted.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:59 pm
by ShiroiHikari
Mobile Suit Gundam
[spoiler]Garma Zabi. I mean, what a way to go-- betrayed by one of your close friends.[/spoiler]
Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
[spoiler]Bernie Wiseman. ;___;[/spoiler]
Space Runaway Ideon
[spoiler]The entire cast.[/spoiler]
Death Note
[spoiler]I was spoiled on L's death and it upset me enough to never read Death Note again.[/spoiler]
Gundam Wing
[spoiler]Treize Khushrenada. I mean, I understand why he had to die but still. He was easily one of the best characters in that series.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:24 pm
by Mr. Hat'n'Clogs
Roy Mustang (post: 1324335) wrote:None.
If anime has no deaths, then it was just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.
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[color="Red"]Col. Roy Mustang[/color][/font]
I have to admit, I'm with Roy on this one. While there are some deaths that were sad, and rockolobster's Shippuden one(I'm unaware of how to spoiler) made me cry, I can't say I've seen any that weren't well done or neccessary. Not saying that I wouldn't mind the character surviving sometimes.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:28 pm
by danceljoy
Almost everyone who died in Gundam Seed/Destiny:
[spoiler]Nicol Amarfi- He's so young and pure-hearted!!!
Natarle Badgriuel- A wonderful commander and a noble person
Fllay Allster- I HATED HER BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT CRY TO THE FACT THAT SHE WAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE TO WHAT SHE HAD DONE. She was immature, lost and bad but she realized her mistakes and wanted to make up with everyone. WAR IS SO
Stellar Loussier- I know she killed a lot of people, but she was being controlled. Reminds me of sin taking control of us.
Rey Za Burrel/ Dullindal/ Talia- A sad "family" death
[/spoiler]
And in Gankutsuou:
[spoiler]
Franz Epinay- IT'S SO SAD. He loves Albert so much. I hate it when people joke of him as gay when I see pure friendship in him. I firmly believe that a man loving another man not in a sexual context is fine.
Edmond Dantes- the result of revenge, at least he found forgiveness and love from Albert. Touching.
[/spoiler]
Code GeaSS
[spoiler]
Euphemia- pure tragic accident!!! Innocent girl...
Shirley- Pure tragic accident
Rolo- Pure tragic sacrifice
*Lelouch- kinda reminded me of Jesus' best sacrifice ever, but in Lelouch's case, he deserves it for his sins while Jesus never did a single wrongdoing. I'm a "Lelouch is alive" supporter also.
[/spoiler]
FMA
[spoiler]
Maes Hughes- he's a sweet father...
Nina- very innocent little girl!!!
Wrath- a child
Lust- she just wants to be human...
[/spoiler]
Naruto
[spoiler]
Haku- like a snow...
Sarutobi Sensei- a heroic death of an elder
Chiyo- same as the one above
Asuma- he left behind a family
[/spoiler]
Rurouni Kenshin OVA's:
[spoiler]
Tomoe- her love is true
Kenshin- a true swordsman to protect, but also a real atoner. Life is just harsh sometimes[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:36 pm
by Bobtheduck
Roy Mustang (post: 1324335) wrote:None.
If anime had no deaths, then it would just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.
[font="Book Antiqua"]
[color="Red"]Col. Roy Mustang[/color][/font]
I think true enjoyment of fiction comes from being able to suspend disbelief and treat the characters and situations as real. Of course, good stories nearly always have death in them, but at the same time I still hate to see some characters die. Heck, I even hate to see some characters die in my own stories. Does their death help the story? In some cases, yes. Doesn't make it suck any less.
As for Grave of the Fireflies, it was mostly a true story [spoiler] The biggest exception being that "Seita" (not his real name) didn't die in real life... Because he was the author of the book. His death was metaphorical.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:51 pm
by danceljoy
Bobtheduck (post: 1324428) wrote:I think true enjoyment of fiction comes from being able to suspend disbelief and treat the characters and situations as real. Of course, good stories nearly always have death in them, but at the same time I still hate to see some characters die. Heck, I even hate to see some characters die in my own stories. Does their death help the story? In some cases, yes. Doesn't make it suck any less.
That's why my parents would rather want me to watch animes than cartoons when I was young. They don't like the idea of loony toons
each other for fun or bullying. My father says that in animes we see characters bleed, cry and fight for a reason. I'm not saying that cartoons are bad, sometimes they are just as violent.
And if nobody dies, it's something like this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisneyDeath
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:38 pm
by Maokun
LadyRushia wrote:From Cowboy Bebop
[spoiler]Spiiiiiikkkkkkeeeee D: That scene was so good but so sad![/spoiler]
Bang.
Well, to add mine
Naruto
[spoiler] Haku and Zabuza. And Chouji (except that in the end he survived, but until we knew that, it was quite emotional. Part of me wishes he actually died, it would have made his courage more valuable]
Saber Marionette J to X
[spoiler]Lime, Cherry and Bloodberry at the end of the series. Yeah I know they later reincarnated...well, no actually, they just "incarnated". But it just wasn't the same.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:58 am
by Bobtheduck
After having just finished Air...
[spoiler]Yukito and Misuzu, of course. I'm gonna guess Kano finally (and peacfully) settled in the girl on the beach when Misuzu and Yukuito meet for the first time, so at least she got her peace at the end, finally knowing the love of a mother, but that doesn't make either death any less sad. Also, Yukito's only purpose being to free Kano from her nightmares seemed kind of wasteful to me... His death seemed a bit pointless in that regard. So, I suppose I really don't like that death, but Misuzu's death was just really sad.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:42 pm
by S.M.O.G.
Death note
[spoiler]L[/spoiler]
Naruto
[spoiler]Zabuza, I would have liked for him to have more screentime before his death.[/spoiler]
And please, clarify between Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. I just started Shippuden, and got spoilers from it when it looked like someone was referring to part one.. This would be a good idea for all multi-part series.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:41 pm
by CrimsonRyu17
Death Note:
[spoiler]Surprise, Light. I was actually a bit sad that he died, especially since that meant the series was over and he was the only real character that interested me besides Matt whose small roll was kinda pathetic. I was actually rooting for Light most of the time too. L was just too boring to me, I was all "SHEYAH, GO LIGHT" when he dropped ded. Oh, I bet I just angered some fangirls.[/spoiler]
Wolf's Rain:
[spoiler]Cher and Darcia. Cher's death just came out of NOWHERE. It was liek, "OMGWTFBBQ." And she and Hubb had just resolved their relationship! Not even a minute afterward! That killed me inside. Darcia's downfall was just plain sad and pitiful to watch.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:52 pm
by mysngoeshere56
wildpurplechild (post: 1324271) wrote:FMA: [SPOILER]and the little girl/dog chimera[/SPOILER]
Fruits Basket?: [SPOILER]It's really sad that Tohru's mom died, but that happened at the beginning.[/SPOILER]
I completely agree with both of those. I almost cried when I found out about both. Especially the FMA one. I was in SHOCK!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:44 pm
by Maokun
I just finished Death Note 25, so let me add my voice to many others':
[spoiler]L
[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:52 am
by teigeki_calesa
Personally, I don't mind anime deaths. I do agree that they add a great deal of drama. But it SUCKS greatly if it's your fave that dies; and when everyone just dies left and right as to paint a "no-hope", nihilistic message; that's when I totally give up on a show.
BTW, The only anime death that I hated the most and I can't get over even if it's been over 10 years since I've watched it is:
Voltes V
[spoiler]Heinel. People may rant over and over that he just deserved to die because of the crimes he had done, but I see him as an unlucky victim of circumstance; with nothing else to live for but his pride; and realized too late that he actually has a family to hold on to aside from that. I could say a lot more, but I don't want to launch into another morality diatribe. He would've done a lot of good things to make up for what he did (he saved his younger half-bro Kenichi in the end and died as a result); maybe he has to die to redeem himself but still....
[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:10 pm
by Akira Takahashi
Saikano - Definately not my favorite anime, but there was one episode that stood out:
[Spoiler]Akemi's death. This has to be the hardest thing ever, aside from Barefoot Gen. Watching her die during the course of the episode affected me for a long time.[/Spoiler]
Escaflowne
[Spoiler]Folken's death.[/Spoiler]
I know there's more, but my brain is shut off.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:37 pm
by ShiroiHikari
teigeki_calesa (post: 1325900) wrote:
BTW, The only anime death that I hated the most and I can't get over even if it's been over 10 years since I've watched it is:
Voltes V
[spoiler]Heinel. People may rant over and over that he just deserved to die because of the crimes he had done, but I see him as an unlucky victim of circumstance]
I agree! I cried over him, because I actually really liked him a lot and felt he didn't deserve that fate.
Also, if you didn't cry your eyes out in FMA over... [spoiler]Nina and her dog[/spoiler] ...then you have no heart!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:54 pm
by mysngoeshere56
I just got some ideas.....
Sailor Moon R
[spoiler]Saphir. I definitely wanted him to survive so he could live the life of a civilian with Petz after the battle. Sadly, he didn't.
[/spoiler]
Oh, and same with.... (Sailor Moon - First Season)
[spoiler]Naru and Nephrite[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:37 pm
by Raiden no Kishi
Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1324407) wrote:I have to admit, I'm with Roy on this one. While there are some deaths that were sad, and rockolobster's Shippuden one(I'm unaware of how to spoiler) made me cry, I can't say I've seen any that weren't well done or neccessary. Not saying that I wouldn't mind the character surviving sometimes.
I don't think that's the point of the thread. If I'm reading it correctly, the point is to list whose deaths had particular emotional effect on you. Perhaps it would then be better said that you could list some of the character deaths which you found most effective in their narrative purpose.
.rai//
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:46 am
by Maokun
Akira Takahashi (post: 1325942) wrote:Saikano - Definately not my favorite anime, but there was one episode that stood out:
[spoiler]Akemi's death. This has to be the hardest thing ever, aside from Barefoot Gen. Watching her die during the course of the episode affected me for a long time.[/spoiler]
Ah you brought this back from the obscurity of my selective memory. [spoiler]I'd dare say the whole series stands better than any single ep as a slow, unavoidable story of the death of humanity both literal and metaphorically represented in the deaths of the main characters. Great series but "Bleak" doesn't even start to define it.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:10 am
by teigeki_calesa
ShiroiHikari (post: 1325956) wrote:I agree! I cried over him, because I actually really liked him a lot and felt he didn't deserve that fate.
Many a manly man here in the Philippines were reduced to tears at that scene. As for me, I didn't cry]THIS[/URL]
*ack, must get out of crazy schedule to be able to draw some Heinel fan art!*
But back on topic; personally, there's just too many "blood, doom and destruction" in anime nowadays that I can't seem to find any death that actually shook me aside from what I just said. I mean, death is just too common...well, except for
Blood+
[spoiler]Riku. At the hands of Diva. Raping him just before killing him off?I was like, "Ow. What a WAY to go." [/spoiler].
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:07 pm
by Blitzkrieg1701
Surprisingly, I rarely seem to get attached to the characters who end up dieing, so I had to think pretty hard to come up with an answer here. Eventually, I found myself settling on an answer several people have already mentioned:
Code Geass:
[spoiler]Euphemia: Even though I found her kind of annoying most of the time, the sheer "cosmic accident" aspect of her death, not to mention the chaos it unleashed, packed quite a wallop. It also represents one of the last points that I actually cared about Code Geass, so that's kind of sad as well.
[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:31 pm
by Sae-chan
Definitely...
Naruto
[spoiler]Asuma, Kakashi (though he came back to life later), and Itachi[/spoiler]
FMA
[spoiler]Hughes! He was seriously awesome![/spoiler]
Hikaru no Go
[spoiler]Sai. Definitely Sai. [/spoiler]
Yep. I never cried, but it was pretty sad.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:55 am
by GeneD
ShiroiHikari (post: 1325956) wrote:Also, if you didn't cry your eyes out in FMA over... [spoiler]Nina and her dog[/spoiler] ...then you have no heart!
I didn't cry over this, but it was very sad. I found it worse than the other "big" FMA death, since that one was spoiled for me before I watched the series.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:03 pm
by the_wolfs_howl
It seems that my favorite character is usually the one to kick the can first. And somehow, I'm always surprised and sad when it happens. As awful as it is to watch a beloved character die, I don't think I would ever change any of these. They add depth to their stories, some of them have ramifications that are necessary to the story, and they're
so much better than them sort-of-dying-but-then-they're-okay
This one comes first, since I just watched it the other day and it's in the forefront of my mind:
Death Note
[spoiler]L! I was
totally not expecting it, and all through that prolonged scene where he breathes his last, I was sure that somehow he'd get out of it somehow. He had to! He was too cool to die!
I didn't actually cry, but I just sat frozen in my chair for a long time after that. It was a beautifully-done death scene, and very fitting for him, but still, to see him defeated like that....[/spoiler]
FMA (first anime)
[spoiler]Hughes, of course. He was the happiest, silliest of all the characters, so of course he was the one who had to die first. What I love about it is that he died trying to help Ed and Al, and his last words were, "I have a wife and kid at home."
Nina Tucker. That was really the first death of the series (not counting their mother, I suppose), and when she was turned into a chimera and then killed, that was the first time I was utterly convinced that this wasn't just a casual, enjoyable story. It's a story of life and death and sacrifice, and so much deeper than anything I'd seen before that.
Scar. After all that time of trying to hunt Ed down and kill him, he actually ended up giving his life to help him. I always tear up in his final scene where he says, "I wanted to tell my brother that I loved him."
Lust. Like Scar, she's a villain who actually ended up helping Ed and Al. I like how she was given more depth by wondering whether she's human or whether she has a soul, and where she came from and where she's going. It's very sad that the main reason she wanted to become human was so she could die.
Edward Elric. Yeah, I know he comes back to life and everything, but his death
devastated me the first time I saw Episode 50. After all he'd gone through, all the sacrifices he'd made, he ended up with nothing....[/spoiler]
Haibane Renmei
[spoiler]Kuu's death was really sad. She was always so cheerful, and then when she had her Day of Flight, she left Rakka so sad....[/spoiler]
Last Exile
[spoiler]Dio Eraclea. Just when I stopped thinking of him as a weird villain and started liking his strange personality, all of that was taken away from him. It made Maestro Delphine even more evil than before.[/spoiler]
Wolf's Rain
[spoiler]Well, basically everybody, but Toboe got me the most. He was the most "innocent" of all of them, and all he wanted was just to comfort Quent and help people out, but he was the first to die. I get so choked up when I watch the scene where Tsume tells Toboe goodbye
[/spoiler]
Vision of Escaflowne
[spoiler]Folken. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I remember I was really sad when he died. Older brothers who sacrifice themselves for their younger brothers' sake always get me.[/spoiler]