CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

Is it anti-Christian? Or....better stated, should a Christian watch it? I read somewhere that the Caster Shells that Gene uses were full of potent magic spells. I've always thought it was super-advanced technology...

I saw the CN edited version a long time ago, but I don't remember much of it. I'm intersted in hearing anyone else's input as I am interested in this anime myself.

There is some 'magick' in it, but it's more like a hybrid of technological superiority than magic.

Only watch the CN cut if you watch it at all. The unedited has full frontal nudity in one ep.

I watched the unedited version and wasn't offended by it. It goes back to what you can personally handle as a Christian. If I remember correctly, the caster shells work with a kind of tao-like magic similar to the chants/spells the pirates use. Outlaw Star is a pretty good space genre anime, I rented it and would say it is worth renting.

Well, I'd say, from what I heard, avoid the unedited, although I won't judge anyone for not doing so. . .

Oh, and if you DO watch the unedited despite the warnings posted here, watch out for episode 24 (I think) which is basically a plotless fanservice episode centered around how many naked women the characters can look at. Grr.

Reminds me of Tenchi Muyo episode 4... good grief, almost the whole episode was nothing but fanservice. Aside from the episode Milly mentioned, how much nudity is in the rest of the show?

Well, virtually anytime Melfina gets in her little tube to pilot the ship, she's nude in the unedit, if I remember correctly.

Ashley wrote:Well, virtually anytime Melfina gets in her little tube to pilot the ship, she's nude in the unedit, if I remember correctly.

I know in the edited version, she has this kind of large bra and shorts on...skin tight, though. It does cover every part clearly, but it shows her stomach and legs, but no nudity.

i'm just curious. when you guys are referring to the "uncut" version,are you talking about the bandai america uncut release? or are we talking about the original "cut". the one that didn't make it stateside. i doubt the original cut would fly very well here so i'm assuming we're talking about the bandai america release. correct me if i'm wrong.


edit: btw,when i said,"wouldn't fly well" i was referring to the shall we say "adult" content of the original. not the fact that Gene uses a magic caster. I really have no problem with the spell aspect of the series.

Aren't the Japanese version and the American Uncut version the same?

When they refered to cut/uncut, they mean this. Cut is the Cartoon Network version - removes nudity, language and other stuff. Uncut refers to the original version - either American or Japanese. Basically what you would get on the DVDs.

On thoughts on Outlaw Star.
I loved it. It was an exciting series with lots of action. As for magic, its really not present. The series is better described as space fantasy rather than science fiction. Space fantasy being things like Warhammer 40K or Star Wars. Fantastic gizmos and strange powers and uber villians.

Nudity: The hot springs ep(24) was ... amusing to say the least. Other than that, its very minor. Melfina in her tube and I think Hot Ice Hilda in one scene.

Hmm... I don't remember the episode in question (with all the nudity) but I do remember the 'tube' and the magic. The magic was rather, in my opinion. If you have reason's not to watch magic, by all means stay away from this anime, other than that, I didn't find any more magic in that than... say Laputa. As far as the Melphina tube shots, I don't recall that being 'detailed,' if you know what I mean. So I guess it's a point of personal discression. If the opening to Ghost in the Shell offended you, probably stay away from this one.

My $0.02

well,apparently you guys don't know what i'm referring to. oh well. if you don't know about it,i guess i won't bring it up then.

I´ve never watched it but i´d like to, and well i don´t really think that magic is not that big problem, after all, who in this forum hasn´t watched LOTR, the movie or read the book, or even whatched Record of Lodoss War?

I dont really notice any magic of sorts in Outlaw Star. It's mostly guns, ships and more guns. Not a whole lot of spellcasting though I havent seen the whole series yet.

oldphilosopher wrote:Hmm... I don't remember the episode in question (with all the nudity) but I do remember the 'tube' and the magic. The magic was rather, in my opinion. If you have reason's not to watch magic, by all means stay away from this anime, other than that, I didn't find any more magic in that than... say Laputa. As far as the Melphina tube shots, I don't recall that being 'detailed,' if you know what I mean. So I guess it's a point of personal discression. If the opening to Ghost in the Shell offended you, probably stay away from this one.

My $0.02

Probably because you saw it on Cartoon Network. If they had edited it, it would be a 5 min episode.

Ep. 24 was never run on CN. There's also Fed who's gay. Even in the edited version he seems pretty funkay.

Macross wrote:I´ve never watched it but i´d like to, and well i don´t really think that magic is not that big problem, after all, who in this forum hasn´t watched LOTR, the movie or read the book, or even whatched Record of Lodoss War?

Actually it depends on what kind of magic. ESPECIALLY if your talking about magic like with serious black magic, or the satanic kind. It's one thing about disney magic, and it's completely another for Charmed magic which isn't much different then real magic. Real magic DOES exist, like telepathy, vampires, and other such things. The problem is that people are led to believe that it comes from the person, instead of demons in which the real power and scource comes from. I mean your basically borrowing/using a demon's/demons' power to do real magic, telepathic 'gifts', become a real vampire, etc.

I may buy this series and do a full review on it sometime. I remember the Cartoon Network edit, it was one of those shows that I couldn't miss a single episode! I was very ticked off when it ended. It would be interesting seeing it again after all this time.

AyanamiRei wrote:. Real magic DOES exist, like telepathy, vampires, and other such things. The problem is that people are led to believe that it comes from the person, instead of demons in which the real power and scource comes from. I mean your basically borrowing/using a demon's/demons' power to do real magic, telepathic 'gifts', become a real vampire, etc.

Wha...
Are you saying vampires are real?
That's a strange statement. Have you ever seen a real one? And have you ever met someone who could talk "telepathecly" with his mind?
I certainly haven't because neither one of them exists.
Good grief.

MasterDias wrote:Wha...
Are you saying vampires are real?
That's a strange statement. Have you ever seen a real one? And have you ever met someone who could talk "telepathecly" with his mind?
I certainly haven't because neither one of them exists.
Good grief.

well,i dunno about "real" vampires,but there have been instances of vampire type violence in the us. some of you may of heard of this,but some folks are participating in what viewers from a distance might refer to as "Vampire Roleplaying". Here's just an example. Entrance to one of these vampire "rpgs" was acctually murdering someone and bringing the heart on a platter to one of the group's meetings,then eating the heart in front of the members. now alot of you won't have heard of this.mostly because of the police covering up most of this for the good of the general public. how do i know this? i'm a student of criminology. this is just a part of curriculum. pht..my state has had one,that i know of,incident of "vampire like" violence. i'm suprsised there aren't more considering the groups that have strongholds here in my state(6 militia groups,2 neo-nazi group,2 skinhead strongholds,and 5 klan org's)

About the magic. I'm open on the idea of magic. I'm not quite sure if it exists or not. But if it did/does exist,i don't think we would have to suck up to demons to use it for our purposes .

senjutsu wrote:well,i dunno about "real" vampires,but there have been instances of vampire type violence in the us. some of you may of heard of this,but some folks are participating in what viewers from a distance might refer to as "Vampire Roleplaying". Here's just an example. Entrance to one of these vampire "rpgs" was acctually murdering someone and bringing the heart on a platter to one of the group's meetings,then eating the heart in front of the members. now alot of you won't have heard of this.mostly because of the police covering up most of this for the good of the general public. how do i know this? i'm a student of criminology. this is just a part of curriculum. pht..my state has had one,that i know of,incident of "vampire like" violence. i'm suprsised there aren't more considering the groups that have strongholds here in my state(6 militia groups,2 neo-nazi group,2 skinhead strongholds,and 5 klan org's)

Um...right.
Hopefully, they wound up in jail.

Well, nutcase cults aside, "real" sucking blood,turning into bats, destroyed with garlic and holy water, Dracula-like, vampires don't exist and are a product of old myths and fiction stories from authors like Bram Stoker.

Ummm back on the topic of Outlaw Star, I have seen most of the Cartoon Network version of it and it seems ok. Minus the magic technology stuff and the skimpiness or nudity of the female characters. I do know in the manga and the un edit, it has tons of nudity (Melfina)and questionable situations involving especially Gene.