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Comicbook Heroes Religious Affiliations

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:27 pm
by ashfire
I found on Yahoo.com that they had for offer a website that shows the religious affiliation of super heroes http://www.ComicBookReligion.com

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:20 pm
by Ashley
Huh, I knew Kitty Pryde was Jewish, but I had no idea it was so varied. Rogue is without a doubt the coolest Baptist chick, evah. XD

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:50 pm
by Yeshua-Knight
while they're not the coolest mutants, both cannonball and husk are also in the xmen too, so i guess it looks like the baptists kinda outnumber the other religions and denominations in that group

...i never pegged wolvie to be a buddhist though, i mean, granted, he just uses his hands to fight, but i have yet to see him toting prayer beads with him

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:17 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Lutheran Super-heroes? This is too funny!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:26 pm
by Shadowchild
Isn't that the title of a song? Hmm... *ponders*

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:29 pm
by Arnobius
sorry double post when I meant to edit

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:30 pm
by Arnobius
Looks like a mixed bag for my denomination. Some portrayed devoutly (Nightcrawler) and others portrayed rather stereotyped.

Of course overall, I think it was interesting that most of the chara of all denominations (older ones anyway) started out with no religion and then developed it as the chara evolved.

Yeshua-Knight wrote:...i never pegged wolvie to be a buddhist though, i mean, granted, he just uses his hands to fight, but i have yet to see him toting prayer beads with him

Probably came around with that Japanese arc in the 1980's with Lady Mariko

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:33 pm
by Yeshua-Knight
yeah, between her and lady deathstrike, i tell ya i don't know of any other superhero with as many ties to japan as he does, i don't think even the silver samurai himself has as many


..which makes me wonder...


what is wolverine's favorite anime?


.....prolly hamtaro or somethin' like that

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:42 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Funny how there are only two Lutheran Superheroes. Maybe they didn't like the change? (lol)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:42 pm
by Arnobius
Yeshua-Knight wrote:yeah, between her and lady deathstrike, i tell ya i don't know of any other superhero with as many ties to japan as he does, i don't think even the silver samurai himself has as many


..which makes me wonder...


what is wolverine's favorite anime?


.....prolly hamtaro or somethin' like that

LOL. That would be ironic.

speaking generally:
It was interesting reading the article on Daredevil... so much of what Marvel did there was just plain inaccurate.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:14 pm
by Rexman64
Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:Funny how there are only two Lutheran Superheroes. Maybe they didn't like the change? (lol)

Look a bit closer at those two... Jimmy Olsen's not even really a superhero, and check that Mastodon guys profile: "Raised Lutheran, now atheist". :sweat:

Say... I wonder what religion Thor is? XD;;

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:23 pm
by bigsleepj
They also have neglected to say what belief Dr Strange holds. Oh well...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:08 am
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Crud. Lutherans get a bit of a bad name then, eh Rexman?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:01 am
by Kaligraphic
Rexman64 wrote:I wonder what religion Thor is?

Well, the real Thor, of Norse mythology, was a pagan, raised in the old Norse ways. He'd heft a drink to himself now and again (and again, and again, and again) by way of observance. As for the comic character, idk.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:51 am
by Arnobius
bigsleepj wrote:They also have neglected to say what belief Dr Strange holds. Oh well...

The Horry hosts of Hoggoth?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:46 pm
by ashfire
Since these were all American comic book heros, how would anime characters in manga or anime itself be affiliated with a religion.
I figure most of the characters in Saint Tail would be Catholic.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:35 pm
by Yeshua-Knight
as i understand it, most anime characters, simply due to various abilities that they seem to demonstrate, would be buddhist, either that or atheist

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:38 pm
by Nate
Yeah, most anime characters would be atheist or agnostic. There are quite a few Shinto anime characters...and yes, most of the characters in Saint Tail are Catholic. But that's a bit off topic, methinks.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:54 pm
by soul alive
It's interresting that Superman and Supergirl are both Methodist (the church I grew up in). Superman's back story seems pretty reasonable, but Supergirl sounds rather, iffy, at best with the whole earth-born angel thing...
Haven't read hardly any superhero comics myself, though, only a few Superman comics that my dad had as a kid.. so I can't really say.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:37 am
by bigsleepj
Although I found the site interesting, I found a majority of some super-hero characters' beliefs to be superficial at best, even the non-Christian lot. Off course those whose powers are based on a belief-system (like the Voodoo-heroes) are a different matter, but overall even the Buddhists are very dry in the respect of the depiction of their beliefs. This however sometimes is the result of decades of different writers giving different spins on the characters.

And another problem is that sometimes the person's beliefs is used in a sensationalistic sense, as if to give some sort of 'kick' to some oddballs. For instance the confessor character who uses "exploding rosary beads" and tells his victims "I will absolve you of your sins." :shake:

Edit: That said, I'm not really dumping on the comics and super-heroes as a whole (I love reading these stories), its just that I'm not fond of the idea that (a) a character's beliefs are controlled by whim of whatever writer is assigned to him and (b) that sometimes the basics of these characters' beliefs are not understood by the people writing it, even if they don't have an axe to grind with this belief.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:10 am
by Steeltemplar
bigsleepj wrote:Although I found the site interesting, I found a majority of some super-hero characters' beliefs to be superficial at best, even the non-Christian lot. Off course those whose powers are based on a belief-system (like the Voodoo-heroes) are a different matter, but overall even the Buddhists are very dry in the respect of the depiction of their beliefs. This however sometimes is the result of decades of different writers giving different spins on the characters.

And another problem is that sometimes the person's beliefs is used in a sensationalistic sense, as if to give some sort of 'kick' to some oddballs. For instance the confessor character who uses "exploding rosary beads" and tells his victims "I will absolve you of your sins." :shake:

Edit: That said, I'm not really dumping on the comics and super-heroes as a whole (I love reading these stories), its just that I'm not fond of the idea that (a) a character's beliefs are controlled by whim of whatever writer is assigned to him and (b) that sometimes the basics of these characters' beliefs are not understood by the people writing it, even if they don't have an axe to grind with this belief.

Yeah, I suspect that most of the people at Marvel and DC have not been of the devoutly religious persuasion.

Another example (as AH mentioned Daredevil):
"In the "Born Again" storyline written by Frank Miller, it was revealed that Matt Murdock's mother, who he never knew as a child, had left his father sometime after Matt was born and became a nun."

The Church would never accept a woman to be a nun under that condition. I don't know if Frank Miller just thought this would be interesting or has something against Catholicism or Christianity.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:53 am
by Destroyer2000
NightCrawlers's father is Satan? Hm...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:56 pm
by Tommy
Notice how there is no Christian group.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:17 pm
by Arnobius
Yeshua-Knight wrote:as i understand it, most anime characters, simply due to various abilities that they seem to demonstrate, would be buddhist, either that or atheist

I think most anime characters seem to be indifferent to religion.

There was an episode of Sailor Moon where Rei's grandfather was trying to recruit the girls to work at a shrine, and Usagi tried to make an excuse saying "I wouldn't be good at chanting all those suras."

Her grandfather replies with "THIS IS A SHRINE! WE DON'T DO SURAS!"

indicating Usagi can't tell the difference between Shinto and Buddhism

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:49 am
by MorwenLaicoriel
Tom Dincht wrote:Notice how there is no Christian group.


Um, you do realize that six out of the 16 groups are actually different denominations of Christianity?

Not that it matters much to me, since i'm non-denominal, but...seriously, there's quite a few Christian groups in there.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:21 am
by Sammy Boy
It's quite interesting to read that, but in the comic books the faith of some superheroes actually does not seem to play a real and tangible part in influencing their actions.

A counter example would be the Nightcrawler.

Also, depending on who the writer is, the superheroes seem to have a decidedly different religious inclination. For example, Superman usually tends to acknowledge 'God' as a real entity in his conversations, but in the Godfall series, he got a pro-Kryptonian (Raon) religious slant.

I guess comic writers like to keep their characters flexible.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:19 am
by rocklobster
I wasn't surprised to find Batman, Daredevil, and Nightcrawler in their respective categories. I've always thought of Batman as quite devoutly Christian. (He sure acts like it!) But why are Lisa Simpson and Jimmy Olsen profiled? They aren't superheroes.
Actually, as far as anime characters go, I can think of a few characters who seem Christian:
  • Wolfwood (obviously, he is a priest, albeit a hypocritical one. But aren't a lot of Christians hypocritical at times. I know I'm guilty of this)
  • Alice in Please Save My Earth (she actually prays to God for Rin's life in the manga version. In fact she prays to God quite a lot)
  • In Robotech/Macross, one character did a sign of the cross. Forget who it was. But then, I only know this because someone else told me once.