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Kuroshitsuji Pentagram?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:35 pm
by Ichigo no Hime
Hi! I would like to know your guy's opinion on the Kuroshitsuji pentagram.
I loved the anime and watched it all and recently got some Kuroshitsuji merchandise for Christmas.
Today my brother pointed out the pentagram on a Kuroshitsuji bag I got, and although I knew it was there I never payed much attention to it. There are two points pointing up, and I think that means its Satanic. O_O;;
But I'm not sure still. I cannot seem to find an exact match of that pentagram, so Im just hoping its made up and doesn't mean anything.


Do you guys think its ok to keep in my house, or should I sell the stuff on ebay? Or am I worrying to much? xD

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:45 pm
by Midori
I personally would not be bothered by it at all. My advice is: if it bothers you, get rid of it, and if it doesn't bother you, don't.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:44 pm
by Rusty Claymore
If something like that happened to me, I'd just put a crooked "This side up" arrow thingy on it. But otherwise, Midori-quote-for-truth. n.n

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:44 am
by Ichigo no Hime
Sorry such a late reply, been busy. ;w;

But thank you guys~
I love the bag, so I'll probably modify it...plus it'll be more original. :)

Thanks again!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:35 pm
by ich1990
Pentagrams have been cool since the 14th century. I am feeling too lazy to look it up exactly, so I will quote from wikipedia:

"The pentagram figured in a heavily symbolic Arthurian romance: it appears on the shield of Sir Gawain in the 14th century poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. As the poet explains, the five points of the star each have five meanings: they represent the five senses, the five fingers, the five wounds of Christ, the five joys that Mary had of Jesus (the Annunciation, the Nativity, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Assumption), and the five virtues of knighthood which Gawain hopes to embody: noble generosity, fellowship, purity, courtesy, and compassion."

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:19 pm
by aliveinHim
I stay away from pentagrams for the satanic conotation they carry.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:26 pm
by TheMewster
I didn't know they were a Christian symbol originally! However, like AliveinHim, I stay far away from even stuff vaguely resembling pentagrams/hexagrams to be spiritually safe and not look hypocritical. And if it offends you SPIRITUALLY, as if it really were satanic, I would sneak it into the BURN pile most likely instead of spreading it somewhere else and profiting off of it! God bless you guys!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:42 pm
by Sapphire225
Well, considering that Sebastian is a demon, I wasn't really too surprised to see it. However, if it really gets to you, you may want to avoid it. Other than that, I ignore it, given the shows premise.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:01 pm
by TheMewster
Thanks Sapphire! I was not even interested in Kuroshitsuji, but now I know what to expect when watching it! I'm offended by demons, so I think I'll avoid it. :) God bless you and peace be with you!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:58 pm
by Lynna
I find it annoying that the pentagram was origionaly christian and now it's considered Satanic.:stressed: stupid satanists, ruining everything:mutter:
I like your idea of editing it. that would probably be the best

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:26 am
by Agloval
This sort of forgotten history of a symbol is not uncommon: most people associate an inverted cross with Satanism, but for a long time it's been a symbol of humility and Simon Peter. (There's a legend -- first appearing in the non-canonical Acts of Peter -- that when he was to be executed, he asked to be crucified upside down, as he felt he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner as Christ. I'm not sure that makes sense, but that's how the legend goes.)

I'm not convinced that the pentagram was really commonly used by normal people in the way that the Pearl-poet used it in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. He says that English people refer to the pentagram as the endless knot, but I don't think there are actually any other contemporary instances of that phrase being used to mean a pentagram. I have a pet theory that the Pearl-poet is joking with his audience. But it's still a nice piece of symbolism.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:37 am
by TheMewster
Guys, what's an inverted cross? And yeah, that's Satan's JOB, ruining it all for us Christians!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:49 am
by Nami
Lynna (post: 1466244) wrote:I find it annoying that the pentagram was origionaly christian and now it's considered Satanic.:stressed: stupid satanists, ruining everything:mutter:
I like your idea of editing it. that would probably be the best


I agree!! Stupid satanists!!

ich1990 (post: 1464955) wrote:Pentagrams have been cool since the 14th century. I am feeling too lazy to look it up exactly, so I will quote from wikipedia:

"The pentagram figured in a heavily symbolic Arthurian romance: it appears on the shield of Sir Gawain in the 14th century poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. As the poet explains, the five points of the star each have five meanings: they represent the five senses, the five fingers, the five wounds of Christ, the five joys that Mary had of Jesus (the Annunciation, the Nativity, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Assumption), and the five virtues of knighthood which Gawain hopes to embody: noble generosity, fellowship, purity, courtesy, and compassion."


*chuckles* look how cool it was~ :D

I'll stuck with the star of David. :D WHICH IS NOT SATANIST!!! *kicks satanists*

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:26 am
by Atria35
TheMewster (post: 1466943) wrote:Guys, what's an inverted cross?!


It's a cross turned upside-down.

But then why don't you guys start taking the symbol back if you don't want it to be associated with satanists? Start using it like it was meant to be used.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:35 am
by Nami
Why, Atria~ You are fabulous. ^_^ I was thinking that, but wondering how to go about it.. maybe making shirts with words like; "We're taking back what's ours" and that symbol on it~

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:14 am
by TopazRaven
Dude, we should totally make shirts like that! I'd wear it. I'd be all like b**** plz, this was ours first! Ok, not really, but yeah...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:55 am
by Nami
XDD Topaz!! That's awesome. But I couldn't wear that shirt T_T XDD;

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:52 am
by TopazRaven
Why not? Lol, I'm not actually sure if I would either honestly, but I might. It would be a good oppurtinty to explain it to people to if they asked.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:34 pm
by ich1990
[quote="Nami (post: 1466986)"]Why, Atria~ You are fabulous. ^_^ I was thinking that, but wondering how to go about it.. maybe making shirts with words like]
Image

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:54 pm
by Atria35
ich1990 (post: 1467019) wrote:Image


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Too amazing for words.

I honestly would wear a pentagram shirt if it maybe had the meanings of each point at each point, because a message short enough for people to get without explaining would be hard to do.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:07 am
by Nami
TopazRaven (post: 1467016) wrote:Why not? Lol, I'm not actually sure if I would either honestly, but I might. It would be a good oppurtinty to explain it to people to if they asked.


I might, ahah. It would be! Ooh, we should totally make shirts for it! haha.

ich1990 (post: 1467019) wrote:Image


Niiiice!

Atria35 (post: 1467035) wrote:Too amazing for words.

I honestly would wear a pentagram shirt if it maybe had the meanings of each point at each point, because a message short enough for people to get without explaining would be hard to do.


Yes! The meanings... *ponders this* I think I could design that, given the chance. ^_^