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something disturbing about dragon ball z

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:07 am
by fermy6
I found out that I'm the japanese version that Hercules real name was in fact Mr Satan...I also saw a pic of Gohan and Videl driving Hercules car and it had Mr Satan and 666 written on it...and apparently Videls name has the exact same letters as devil in it..

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:20 am
by Atria35
fermy6 (post: 1437768) wrote:\...and apparently Videls name has the exact same letters as devil in it..


That doesn't necessarily mean anything- I mean, DeVille from 101 Dalmations had play on the word 'devil' (used to emphasize her evilness, of course), but with only 26 letters in the alphabet, someone somewhere has the letters for 'devil' mixed up in their name.

The Mr. Devil name was stripped from the US version of Dragonball so that people wouldn't be offended, but the author did say in an interview that Mr. Satan was the character's stage name and his real name was Mark.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:23 am
by Fish and Chips
fermy6 (post: 1437768) wrote:I found out that I'm the japanese version that Hercules real name was in fact Mr Satan.
That would be incorrect.

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It's his stage name.
fermy6 (post: 1437768) wrote:...and apparently Videls name has the exact same letters as devil in it..
On a tangential note, "Live" backwards is "Evil."

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:29 am
by fermy6
But what about the whole 666 thing on his car why would that be there?I saw the picture on google myself

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:00 am
by Lilac#18
Atria35 (post: 1437769) wrote:The Mr. Devil name was stripped from the US version of Dragonball so that people wouldn't be offended, but the author did say in an interview that Mr. Satan was the character's stage name and his real name was Mark.



[color="Plum"]I didn't know his real name was Mark.:o Thanks for posting that.[/color]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:09 am
by Rusty Claymore
But what about the whole 666 thing on his car why would that be there?I saw the picture on google myself
There are tons of people who think being bad is cool. 666 is the mark of the beast, and just like dare devil's use pentograms and skeletons as their emblems, his guy )I'm assuming) uses it just as a "I'm Bad-butt" emblem.
Also throw in the Japanese veiw of Christianity, much like our veiw on their culture and religeons(?), and it's just some "Cool Bad Guy" gimmick.
Imho. That's never watched DBz...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:15 am
by Sparx00
There's actually a lot of weird stuff about DBZ. Vegeta = Vegetable, Kakarot (Goku's old name,) = Carrot, Nearly everybody in Bulma's family is named after some kind of article of clothing, The word Ginyu (as in the ginyu force,) is VERY close to the japanese word for "milk" Plus all the other people's names in the force sounds like some kind of food. So the Ginyu force becomes the dairy force. Then there's Freeza, his brother Cooler, and their dad King cold. I believe that explains itself. And then there's majin buu. Bibidi who is babidi's father and the guy who created buu, Babidi who controled buu, and Buu himself. Put them all together and what do you get? That's right, Bibidi babidi buu.

(On a side note, please excuse my poor spelling of the character's names if I spelled them wrong.)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:15 am
by Fish and Chips
fermy6 (post: 1437779) wrote:But what about the whole 666 thing on his car why would that be there?I saw the picture on google myself
I take it you don't keep up much with the wrestling scene.

It's his stage persona. It's all showmanship, in and outside of the ring. He's Mr. Satan, of course his car says 666. It's his shtick.

Besides the point, this is Japan here. They are notorious for this stuff.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:25 pm
by shooraijin
I think the best way is to turn it on its head. American movies and cinema make much about Buddhist and Shinto practices which are totally stereotyped and ridiculous to actual practitioners of Buddhism and Shinto due to relative ignorance about them. The same applies here.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:50 pm
by Peanut
shooraijin (post: 1437972) wrote:I think the best way is to turn it on its head. American movies and cinema make much about Buddhist and Shinto practices which are totally stereotyped and ridiculous to actual practitioners of Buddhism and Shinto due to relative ignorance about them. The same applies here.


This.

Also, from my standpoint, I just wonder why Hercule has the gematriatic value for Nero on his car.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:16 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
No, Nero was 616, not 666.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:31 am
by Peanut
Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1438027) wrote:No, Nero was 616, not 666.


The value in the text itself is debatable but, Nero's name can still be attributed to each value. Then again, Freakazoid and, apparently, fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff can be transliterated into Hebrew in a way that leads to the number 666 as well...so maybe that's what Revelation is talking about...unless the real number of the beast was 616...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:46 am
by K. Ayato
Regardless, as Believers, the number 666 (as of now) doesn't really apply to us and is no cause for us to freak out upon seeing it. For those who don't believe, 666 spells trouble in the future. I know some people here may not agree, so feel free to take it to PM.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:44 am
by ShiroiHikari
I personally don't even think Revelation is meant to be taken literally in the first place but that's just me and that's all I'm going to say about it.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:46 pm
by Peanut
ShiroiHikari (post: 1438089) wrote:I personally don't even think Revelation is meant to be taken literally in the first place but that's just me and that's all I'm going to say about it.


Well, technically, I think we all can agree with this one. Unless people really think we're going to be following a literal beast and worshiping a literal dragon...yeah I doubt that.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:48 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
A dragon is gonna pop out of a woman's uterus!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:59 pm
by Psycho Molos
Like woah dude!! That's hardcore!! Like the boobytraps from the latest Saw movie!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:02 pm
by Atria35
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1438183) wrote:A dragon is gonna pop out of a woman's uterus!!!!


I've seen a horror movie like that......

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:13 pm
by Sparx00
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:A dragon is gonna pop out of a woman's uterus!!!!

*facepalm*

Quote of the week right there...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:59 am
by Fish and Chips
Peanut (post: 1438105) wrote:Well, technically, I think we all can agree with this one. Unless people really think we're going to be following a literal beast and worshiping a literal dragon...yeah I doubt that.
666 IS A CREDIT CONGLOMERATE.

THE DRAGON IS THE EUROPEAN UNION.

THE LOCUSTS ARE BLACK APACHE HELICOPTERS.

SCOTT SEDGEWICK IS THE ANTICHRIST.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:01 pm
by Nate
You forgot "Social Security numbers are the mark of the beast!"

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:02 pm
by Peanut
As well as those chips they put in pets so their records are on them all the time.