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SkyRider airline seats pack fliers into 23 inches of space

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:34 pm
by Roy Mustang
SkyRider airline seats

USA Today wrote:Think your seat in coach is cramped? Take a look at the SkyRider.

The new airplane seat, to be unveiled next week at the Aircraft Interiors Expo Americas conference in Long Beach, would give passengers an experience akin to riding horseback.

They'd sit at an angle with no more than 23 inches between their perch and the seat in front of them — a design that could appeal to low-cost airlines that have floated the idea of offering passengers standing-room tickets on short flights.

The SkyRider isn't headed for an airplane cabin just yet. But its designer, Aviointeriors, an aircraft seat design firm based in Latina, Italy, says several airlines, including some in the U.S., have expressed interest.

"We feel extremely confident that this concept will ... have great appeal to airlines for economic purposes," says Dominique Menoud, director general of Aviointeriors Group.

The SkyRider could be its own class of seating, like business or coach, Menoud says. Passengers would likely pay lower fares. But airlines could boost their profits because the narrowly spaced seats would allow them to squeeze more fliers on board.

"For flights anywhere from one to possibly even up to three hours ... this would be comfortable seating," he says. "The seat ... is like a saddle. Cowboys ride eight hours on their horses during the day and still feel comfortable in the saddle."

The novel design may draw interest — especially from two overseas carriers that have entertained the idea of providing no seats at all.

Ryanair, the Irish low-cost carrier that has set trends such as charging for in-flight meals, has said it would let passengers stand during flights if the Irish Aviation Authority would allow it.

And last year, Spring Airlines, a low-cost carrier in China, tried to get the OK from regulators to redesign its planes to accommodate some standing passengers.

But Gaetano Perugini, Aviointeriors' director of research and development who created the SkyRider, emphasizes that the firm isn't proposing that passengers be on their feet.

"Even though the (distance between seats) is extremely narrow, we are talking about seats, not about ... having passengers simply standing on the floor," he says. "You are sitting on a special seat, but it is a seat."

The seats will offer storage space as well, including a shelf for carry-on bags, and hooks to hang a jacket or purse.

If a carrier commits to installing the new seats, Aviointeriors will apply to European aviation authorities and those in the United States for proper certification, Menoud says.

Les Dorr, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration, which regulates air travel in the U.S., says he's not familiar with the SkyRider's particular design.

However, he says, "While it's not impossible, it's difficult to conceive of a standing seat that would be able to meet all applicable FAA requirements and still be cost-effective."


What don't they just remove the seats and put cages on the planes and give everyone a dog dish!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:56 pm
by CrimsonRyu17
Eh, I guess it's not so bad. If you've ever riding on a horse, its actually very comfortable although I'm not sure how I feel about that back part. That doesn't look very comfortable at all.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:56 pm
by Ante Bellum
Well...I can say some things...and I can say other things about it too. I won't of course.
All I'm going to say is that yeah, it can be pretty comfortable. Why not?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:55 pm
by ChristianKitsune
where would they put their carry on bags? Hmm... and how would one even enjoy their carry on items with their legs like that... I'd imagine they'd have to provide some sort of back support too...

I don't know i I'd like it... XD I think you have to get used to riding a horse before it's actually comfy, right? The same would apply here, I'd assume.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:40 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
This sounds awful! At 196cm tall (roughly 6 foot, 5 inches) I already feel like a sardine on planes. No-way would I agree to this. As for horse-riding, it's not comfortable in the least. You get sore easily. Not just your legs but erm... other areas too. As a guy, I have to say horse-riding is not good. Nor is flying on a plane with saddle-like seating.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:18 am
by Atria35
ChristianKitsune (post: 1423156) wrote:I don't know i I'd like it... XD I think you have to get used to riding a horse before it's actually comfy, right? The same would apply here, I'd assume.


The only way you can get used to the chafing is if you do it regularly- and even that doesn't help a whole lot. For guys, it's even more uncomfortable. Saddles aren't the most.... guy-friendly of seats. Think about what bike seats do to guys. It's something similar.

Which means that unless you're travelling regularly, like every weekend, by plane- then that is going to be horrendously uncomfortable. Even then, I ownder what those seats are going to do to people's backs! And my brother is about 6 feet tall. As it is he's VERY uncomfortable in airplane seats- if they put these in, he's never flying again.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:41 pm
by Dante
You know... there are seating limitations in restaurants mandated by the fire Marshall... Why not air-planes? I mean, if you jam too many people close together and something goes wrong there is going to be absolute chaos. After a certain point, it's just not safe.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:57 pm
by Atria35
Pascal (post: 1423300) wrote:You know... there are seating limitations in restaurants mandated by the fire Marshall... Why not air-planes? I mean, if you jam too many people close together and something goes wrong there is going to be absolute chaos. After a certain point, it's just not safe.


That's a good point- actually, as it is, the #1 reason that people die in airplane accidents is that they can't get away from the smoke/fire because of people jamming up the aisles trying to get out. This would only make the problem worse.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:39 pm
by ich1990
For short flights I would have no problem riding in these seats, if it means I get where I am going 20% cheaper or so (any less of a discount and it would be a tougher decision). On a $200, 2 hour flight, that means I get paid $20 an hour for sitting around in a somewhat uncomfortable position. I would do that.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:56 am
by Warrior4Christ
That's nothing. Ryanair (UK)'s seats are more vertical/standing. It's a flat board on an angle.

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/ryanair-plan-for-standingroom-vertical-seats-20100702-zru8.html

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:00 am
by Atria35
ich1990 (post: 1423622) wrote:For short flights I would have no problem riding in these seats, if it means I get where I am going 20% cheaper or so (any less of a discount and it would be a tougher decision). On a $200, 2 hour flight, that means I get paid $20 an hour for sitting around in a somewhat uncomfortable position. I would do that.


Or it means that you're paying $180 dollars an hour to sit in an uncomfortable seat. Putting it that way doesn't make it sound any better >.>"

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:02 am
by ich1990
Atria35 (post: 1423679) wrote:Or it means that you're paying $180 dollars an hour to sit in an uncomfortable seat. Putting it that way doesn't make it sound any better >.>"
$80 an hour, actually (($200*.8)/2). But that is not really the same thing because I assumed you had already agreed that $200 was a fair price for a flight. You are paying $80 an hour to sit in an uncomfortable seat and get where you want to go. The utility is in the transportation, not the seating.

If you buy a regular seat or an economical one, you still go where you want to, which is the purpose of the flight in the first place. The economical one just lets you make a little money while you do so by agreeing to sit in a saddle seat.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:41 am
by Radical Dreamer
Dude, there is no way I could do this. XD I've never flown before, but having only 23 inches of space to myself (and what looks like zero leg room) would be beyond uncomfortable, even for a short flight. XD I'm not sure I could last longer than 30 minutes in a seat like that. XD

Also the idea of being packed into a sardine can with wings at 15,000 feet doesn't seem like the best idea to me. XDD

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:32 pm
by Roy Mustang
Warrior4Christ wrote:That's nothing. Ryanair (UK)'s seats are more vertical/standing. It's a flat board on an angle.

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/ryanair-plan-for-standingroom-vertical-seats-20100702-zru8.html



Seeing those seats and then remembering that Ryanair also makes you pay to use the bathroom is not all of a shock that they have those kind of seats.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:01 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
There are people who say it's no different to standing up on a train or bus. Um. Yes, there is! Buses and trains wouldn't throw you around as much. They don't need to take off and land. Believe you me, that would not be a pleasant experience in one of these vertical operating tables.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:38 pm
by Roy Mustang
Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:There are people who say it's no different to standing up on a train or bus. Um. Yes, there is! Buses and trains wouldn't throw you around as much. They don't need to take off and land. Believe you me, that would not be a pleasant experience in one of these vertical operating tables.


I say to those people. I take it that you never been on a plane that ran into turbulent. It's a fun ride, when your in your seat and you have your seat belt on. I would it would be even more fun, standing up! NOT!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:42 pm
by Nate
SkyRider?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:18 am
by Wolf-man
DARN YOU NATE!!! You beat me to it.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:31 pm
by Psycho Molos
Radical Dreamer (post: 1423724) wrote:Dude, there is no way I could do this. XD I've never flown before, but having only 23 inches of space to myself (and what looks like zero leg room) would be beyond uncomfortable, even for a short flight. XD I'm not sure I could last longer than 30 minutes in a seat like that. XD

Also the idea of being packed into a sardine can with wings at 15,000 feet doesn't seem like the best idea to me. XDD


What might be worse is if you become...LOST!! Lol