Nate (post: 1346097) wrote:Um.Also, of COURSE race is genetic. Otherwise you're saying two white couples could have a black baby, or that a white and a black couple could mysteriously have a child that looked Asian. They don't, because race IS genetic.
I think we're thinking at different angles here.
By no means am I saying that race does not exist, hence an "illusion". Race exists because the categories of differentiation are purely human constructs. i.e. What is stopping me from claiming to be pure Irish? Heck, why can't I even be pure Irish? Because my skin pigment isn't white or I don't have red hair? 85%]same[/i] "racial" population, meaning I am just as likely (or even more likely) to be genetically similar to you than I am to another Korean person.
Let's say I was born from Korean parents (which... I am), but adopted by Japanese parents immediately after birth. I'm socialized in Japanese society. I learn the language, customs, and social norms/mores/taboos. Am I Japanese? And if not, then why? Genetic Inheritability can't be a valid answer because the only reason my parents are Korean is that they are socialized in Korean society, which you then would regress that argument back to early history... and find out that we were all likely Chinese at one point. Heck, one of my ancestors may have even been Russian or something! Maybe I'm 1/32 Russian. If I were 1/32 Black in early 20th century then I would have been legally classified as "black"... which just makes absolutely no sense.
Hence, "race" is socially constructed, especially since classifications of race are always changing. The only reason I am Korean is because the world says so...
Refusing the accept the idea of Race existing is Colorblindness, and has it's own limitations as well. I don't like the idea of Colorblindness, because I personally believe "race"-focused solutions are necessary to make any progress. Treating people equally isn't going to do anything because systems themselves are racist. Dr. George Yancey speaks much on this subject. Race still has a major impact in society because not only is there racism at an individual level, but there is much institutional racism today, especially the repercussions of past exploits.
And here's a good wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_interpretations_of_raceNate wrote:Yeah, race can lend itself to stereotyping, but so can gender, and I don't see anyone saying we should regard gender as an illusion. Men and women are different, yet the same, and it's the same with race, we're all different, yet the same. It just bothers me when people say "There's no such thing as race" because there IS, plain as the noses on our faces.
Well Gender often is related to the socially constructed differences between male and females. Sex is the purely physiological differences between the two. Some people would argue that gender differences are purely socially constructed (i.e. many ultrafeminists), while others say that differences are a result of biological differences. I tend to take a more eclectic approach and say that both are true points.