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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:58 pm

The issue is the number of good GAMES that are to follow. The PSP doesn't exactly have a strong library, the only few good games I can think of are Syphon Filter, Daxter, and MGS Portable Ops. Possibly Lumines, but I'm not too keen on puzzle games.

Though I must say I'm practically sold on a 360. Gears of War, Lost Planet, even possibly Metal Gear Solid 4. (PLEASE KOJIMA, PUT IT ON THE 360 AND I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER! It does not need to be a ps3 exclusive!) I don't see myself getting a 360 anytime too soon.

So... what are other PSP recommendations?
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Postby Tommy » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:10 pm

Metal Gear Ac!d 1 and 2.

Suikoden I and II may come to America on PSP, but it isn't likely.
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Postby desperado » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:18 pm

If you like rpgs the legend of heroes series is decent. I am currently searching for blade dancer which is supposedly a hard to find but extremely good rpg.

Also cant forget valkrie profile.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:21 pm

Loco Roco... And maybe splinter cell. Also, you need to get a large memory stick (2 gigs for most games, 4 gigs if you wanna play 3 cd or larger games) for the playstation emulator. Like, legal and legit. As for getting the games on there, I haven't actually found out how to do that yet.

EDIT: Can't forget the amazerizing remake of Final Fantasy Tactics... Well, an Oblivion side story is coming to PSP, but I hate oblivion, so I don't care much.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:21 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Metal Gear Ac!d 1 and 2.

Uhm no. Not into the whole card-thing.

And I don't want any decent games. I want exceptionally good games. Something that'll say "The PSP is worth it".
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Postby Link Antilles » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:21 pm

The Metal Gear Ac!d games are very well made and great, but they are too complex and/or slow paced for many. Tekken on the PSP is downright amazing and fun. Ace Combat Zero is another fun one with a good story to boot. Then there is the Mega Man X remake, which is also really cool.


O'yeah... I hear the Killzone one is actually a good game, but a little on the hard side.

(Btw, I strongly recommend looking into Oblivion, Rainbow Six Vegas, Double Agent, Ghost Recon, Dead Rising, DOA4, and Kameo on the 360. Not to mention, the upcoming Mass Effect and Blue Dragon look insanely awesome.)
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:25 pm

Bobtheduck wrote:Loco Roco... And maybe splinter cell. Also, you need to get a large memory stick (2 gigs for most games, 4 gigs if you wanna play 3 cd or larger games) for the playstation emulator. Like, legal and legit. As for getting the games on there, I haven't actually found out how to do that yet.

Loco Roco is a yes. FF Tactics is a semi-yes. (I'm not too keen on Tactics, but I'll give it another fair shot)

As for the 360. How could I forget Dead Rising! That game is incredible. It's GORGEOUS. (With much emphasis on GORE lol)
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:35 pm

Valkyrie Profile, Final Fantasy Tactics, (out in a few months to a year), Tales of Eternia (must import from UK).

Those are the only titles that I personally am wanting to play on PSP. I know they are all ports of old PS1 games, but buying a PSP and these games costs the same as buying the old PS1 games by themselves now. :/

(I don't think that MGS on 360 is Kojima's call, I think that it's Capcom's. Also, 360's Lost Oddysee looks like it will be amazing. Cry On has no trailer yet, but sounds pretty cool.)
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Postby Tommy » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:45 pm

ikimasu wrote: I think that it's Capcom's.


Don't you mean Konami?
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:53 pm

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12451/Konami-No-Plans-to-Bring-Metal-Gear-Solid-4-to-Xbox-360/

There won't be a 360 version of Guns of the Patriots unless PS3 completely and utterly flops. That's like saying there'll be a PS3 version of Gears of War or Halo... Console companies like to hold onto their killer aps, ya know.
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Postby Omega Amen » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:09 pm

A lot of the great PSP titles have already been mentioned in this thread, and for their respective game genres, they are exceptionally well-made. If those genres do not have great appeal to you, then my advice is to either keep waiting or to save for something else. It is pricey for a portable system, and the games are also a little pricey as well.

My only additions would be some 2D fighting remakes like Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max or Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower. Also there is Mega Man Powered Up which I have heard good things.

(MGS Sidenotes: MGS franchise is owned by Konami, not Capcom. There has only been one iteration of the MGS franchise that stayed exclusive to the PlayStation platform and that is MGS3. The rest were either remade by another developer, like MGS: Twin Snakes by Silicon Knights on the Gamecube, or ported via emulation, like MGS2 for the Xbox. Kojima's team has only worked on the PlayStation versions of the MGS titles.)
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:20 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Don't you mean Konami?


Yes I did. I was looking at a list of upcoming Capcom titles at the time, so I typed Konami on accident.

GTA is a great example of a "killer ap" that got remade for another console. The games were "exclusive" to PS2... for about 6 months. Regardless, the decision is Konami's. I think MGS4 on 360 unlikely, but possible. As Omega Amen mentioned, the MGS series is not commonly exclusive.

Back on topic-

To Add to Omega Amen's list of PSP 2d Fighting games: Guilty Gear Judgment.


I forgot to mention Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core. I haven't been a fan of the other FFVII spin offs, however, this one intrigued me. The game seems to center on Zack and Sephiroth before the happenings of FFVII. I have always wanted to know more about who Sephiroth was before going insane. I have always felt that one of the biggest flaws in FFVII was the lack of development of both Zack and Sephiroth.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:24 pm

Omega Amen wrote:(MGS Sidenotes: MGS franchise is owned by Konami, not Capcom. There has only been one iteration of the MGS franchise that stayed exclusive to the PlayStation platform and that is MGS3. The rest were either remade by another developer, like MGS: Twin Snakes by Silicon Knights on the Gamecube, or ported via emulation, like MGS2 for the Xbox. Kojima's team has only worked on the PlayStation versions of the MGS titles.)


Which is why many fans hate substance, and twin snakes? Ugh, some of those new scenes are just absurd, not to mention it looks worse than Sons of Liberty on a more powerfull system.
Kojima has denied on numerous occasions any plans on making a MGS4 release on 360.

1. it would have to be multi-disk, as Kojima said that he allready saw the need for more disc space than a DVD could offer.
2. This is relatively minor, but Kojima was planning on integrating the tilt sensor into the game... Though he DOES miss the rumble, and tilt's not likely an important feature...
3. this is Sony's last stronghold. With more RPGs moving to the 360, Metal Gear is the last thing Sony really has to hold onto. I think Sony is going to fight hard for MGS4... Purchases of this game will likely mean purchases of the system... I know that's true for at least one friend of mine. Metal Gear is also what's getting him to buy a PSP... The only thing, in fact. He's essentially getting a 250 dollar game... And later will buy a 560 dollar game (unless PS3 prices go down)
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Postby Omega Amen » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:28 pm

I think enough has been said on MGS's likelihood being on the 360 when the issue is whether MSP should spend his money on the PSP. (That is a lot of three letter initials.)

So let us return back to the thread subject.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:32 pm

Bobtheduck wrote:http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12451/Konami-No-Plans-to-Bring-Metal-Gear-Solid-4-to-Xbox-360/

There won't be a 360 version of Guns of the Patriots unless PS3 completely and utterly flops. That's like saying there'll be a PS3 version of Gears of War or Halo... Console companies like to hold onto their killer aps, ya know.

Awww, that's a real shame. Frankly I'm pretty disappointed.

However there were such instances where a "Exclusive" game ended up making it to other consoles. Resident Evil 4 comes to mind.

Anyway, titles that really strike out to me at the moment are:
MGS Portable Ops
Syphon Filter
Loco Roco
WTF
Final Fantasy Tactics
Possibly Tekken, Megaman, Katamari, and Bleach Heat of the Soul.

I'm still stuck between what my next buy will be, a PSP or a 360. I ought to think this more. Though if I decide on a PSP I'll be able to get it earlier.
bobtheduck wrote:Which is why many fans hate substance, and twin snakes? Ugh, some of those new scenes are just absurd, not to mention it looks worse than Sons of Liberty on a more powerfull system.

Just curious, what was wrong with Substance? (I never played the original "Sons of Liberties") And for MGS1 I played that via Twin Snakes.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:51 am

I don't hate substance, personally, but there are two very minor changes in the actual game, I believe, and then "Snake Tales" was added, which violates the continuity of the game... I never played through snake tales, so I don't know... I do know about Twin Snakes, though... The changes made to the cinema scenes (not to mention change in voice cast...) were really hard to watch... They wanted to match it to the more stylistic action in MGS2, but they ended up making it even worse... The jumping on the missile scene is so... painful, even though I thought it looked cool the first time I saw it... That added to all the other changes (minus the ninja intro scene which needed to be as bloody as it was in Twin Snakes... Make that game DESERVE its M rating!!) added up to a very fluffy game that wasn't designed to use MGS2 mechanics...

As for Katamari, I completley forgot it was on PSP!! How could I forget Katamari?

[spoiler=rant]As for convincing you to buy a PSP, everyone who visits the gaming boards knows I'm a Sony fanboy, and Sony fanboys don't sell Sony systems... If anything, they drive people away (though I sold a few people on Eyetoy, which is cool) while, somehow, Nintendo fanboys have the opposite effect... At least, this gen. Last gen, N fanboys drove all sorts of people away from the Cube, while Sony fanboys drove PS2 sales... So, I don't think I could say anything that would drive you to a PSP... I just know I want one, and I'll get one in about 8 months... I also don't think I could deter anyone from getting a 360... Trust me, I tried, haha. I hate MS for trying to flood the console market with the same stuff that's overwhelmed the PC gaming market for a long time... FPS games and American style RPGs... I'm thoroughly convinced my ranting could convince someone to get a 360 and burn their sony products. I'm that persuasive. It's a curious thing to have so much power... It's an extension of my romantic life.[/spoiler]
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Postby everdred12a » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:05 am

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Uhm no. Not into the whole card-thing.

And I don't want any decent games. I want exceptionally good games. Something that'll say "The PSP is worth it".

It may not be your kind of thing, but the GTA games on the PSP are amazing. They make up what should be the standard for PSP games, IMO. But not everyone is into GTA, so to each his own.

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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:00 am

Bobtheduck wrote:(not to mention change in voice cast...)

Actually in The Twin Snakes, they retained most of the same voice cast. The only time they had new voice actors were probably when they couldn't get the original ones. (Though the voices were re-recorded)
wikipedia wrote:The voice acting was re-recorded, with most of the original voice cast from Metal Gear Solid returning, with the notable exception of the voice actor for the Cyborg Ninja. In the original game, Cyborg Ninja was voiced by Greg Eagles, who also voiced Donald Anderson. In the remake, he was voiced by Rob Paulsen, even though Eagles did reprise his role as the DARPA Chief. Unlike previous MGS titles, no Japanese voiceovers were recorded for The Twin Snakes. Instead, the Japanese release used the same English voice acting as the North American and European versions.

I believe earlier, the cast had fake pseudonyms too. And I guess the Japanese prefer the English voice acting.

I dunno. I loved the Twin Snakes. I thought the cinematographic presentation was stellar.
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Postby Myoti » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:20 am

I dunno. I loved the Twin Snakes. I thought the cinematographic presentation was stellar.

As did I (it's what got me into the series). And what is this "missle jumping" scene Bob is speaking of? o_O
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:28 am

Myoti wrote:As did I (it's what got me into the series). And what is this "missle jumping" scene Bob is speaking of? o_O

Isn't it during that tank battle? Where he shoots a missile and you like... grab it and jump off it and stuff.

Anyway it's best we get back on topic, which I don't think there is much more to discuss. I'll most likely be getting a PSP within a week or two, mainly because it's cheaper than the 360. American First Person Shooter or not, Gears of War got a freaken 9.2 on gamespot. That's like Half-Life quality right there. :lol:

Although the ps3 is a major no-no for the next few years...
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Postby Tommy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:43 am

According to your opinion.

Price-wise, yes. Game-Wise, no.

Sports-wise, a huge yes.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:50 am

Tom Dincht wrote:According to your opinion.

Price-wise, yes. Game-Wise, no.

Uhm... what?
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Postby Tommy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:03 pm

Okay, let me try that again.

YOUR OPINION says that PS3 is a no-no.

MY OPINION is that price-wise you are correct, but game-wise you are not.

That's because I love sports games.

And don't try saying: (not directed at MSP) "Sports Games are Stupid. I can just play them in real life and it will be just as fun." That theory only works for the Table Tennis video game for the 360.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:22 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Okay, let me try that again.

YOUR OPINION says that PS3 is a no-no.

MY OPINION is that price-wise you are correct, but game-wise you are not.

That's because I love sports games.

And don't try saying: (not directed at MSP) "Sports Games are Stupid. I can just play them in real life and it will be just as fun." That theory only works for the Table Tennis video game for the 360.

Right... but I don't like sports games, so whatever.

The only ps3 game that catches my eye is Guns and Patriots.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:49 pm

Myoti wrote:As did I (it's what got me into the series). And what is this "missle jumping" scene Bob is speaking of? o_O


The scene on the roof fighting the Hind. Snake jumps off one of the missiles... EDIT: Does it happen in the Tank battle, I thought it was the hind...

As for wanting to play MGS4, hope you get a friend with a PS3 or have a gamestore nearby that disobeys the rules and lets you play an M rated game at the store...
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Postby Yojimbo » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:41 pm

I just sold my PSP last week on Ebay for $200 and I don't regret it one bit. I planned on getting a DS and I still probably will but not for another couple of months at least. I've spent way too much money lately. I would hold out and honestly go for a 360. The PSP has a decent number of good games but with the exception of Lumines, Wipeout, Burnout, MG: Portable Ops, Tekken, and Syphon Filter there's nothing that screams "buy me." There are plenty of other good games, mostly PS2 spin off titles like Katamari, but nothing that seperates them as awesome PSP games instead of dumbed down PS2 games. Crisis Core and Tactics looks promising but I can't really think of anything that would wow me if I was looking into buying a PSP.

The 360 is gold right now and it's only looking better in the future. Xbox Live if you have it will enhance your gaming experience by tenfold. I honestly can't see how people can own games like Gears of War and not have Live. Downloading demos and videos is awesome I check for new ones almost every time I boot it up. Xbox Live Arcade has a good number of really awesome original games like Assault Heroes, Cloning Clyde, and Small Arms along with it's classic lineup.

You can't go wrong with Gears of War, Oblivion, FEAR, Call of Duty 2/3, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Prey, Splinter Cell, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Moto GP 2006, Burnout, Project Gotham, Viva Pinata, and Fight Night Round 3.

Of course on the 2007 horizon we have Alan Wake, Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Lost Oddssey, Forza 2, Crackdown, Resident Evil 5, Lost Planet, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon AW:2, Bioshock, Virtua Fighter 5, GTA 4, Guitar Hero II, Eternal Sonata, Too Human, Dark Sector, and of course the Half-Life 2 bundle. Umm...yeah do I really need to continue and that's just off the top of my head. Buy a 360.
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